Q&A: An Abundance of Blessed Innocence
An Abundance of Blessed Innocence
Question
Hello Rabbi,
Why is it that in the Religious Zionist public there is an inflationary quantity of human beings—creatures of the Creator—who have been blessed with innocence (bordering on stupidity) in far greater abundance than right-wingers, left-wingers, Haredim, Arabs, Druze, Circassians, Neturei Karta, Canaanites, and the Hebrew community in Dimona (the last ones can be deleted)?
The question is whether this is random, a creative experiment, a hobby of the Creator of the universe, or perhaps a consequence of the naive/utopian doctrine of Rabbi Kook, may the memory of the righteous be a blessing.
Answer
I debated whether to delete this “question” (?). I will do so unless you sharpen what exactly you are asking, and avoid vague statements bordering on emptiness. The responsa here are meant for questions and discussion, not declarations.
Discussion on Answer
I can’t believe you put the Haredim below the Religious Zionists.
With God’s help, 8 Tammuz 5780
To Zti Aviner — greetings,
Religious Zionists really do have the trait of placing trust in historical processes. Even when the current situation looks awful, the Religious Zionist believes that little by little things will improve, and that his role is not to “throw up his hands” but to take part in the process and gradually influence it for the better.
For this reason, for example, they remained within the framework of the Zionist movement even when leading parts of it were not only secular but actually anti-religious. You should read a bit about the descriptions given by the early members of HaPoel HaMizrachi regarding the extent of the opposition to religion back then.
For example, the Zionist Organization refused to approve the establishment of the first HaPoel HaMizrachi moshav, Sde Ya’akov. For many years Sde Ya’akov was considered an “illegal settlement,” until Rabbi Kook threatened to call on religious Jews abroad to stop donating to Zionist institutions, and only then did they finally condescend to approve a religious settlement. And what about today? The religious settlement enterprise numbers hundreds of communities and neighborhoods, hundreds of thousands of people, and is now the leading force in settlement.
In the kitchens and factories of the Histadrut there was neither kashrut nor Sabbath observance, and religious workers who did not want to organize within it were persecuted and expelled from their workplaces. In the end, agreements were reached between HaPoel HaMizrachi and the Histadrut, and Sabbath observance throughout the economy and kashrut in all public institutions were guaranteed. To the point that today secular people complain about “religious coercion.”
In short:
When you trust the process, roll up your sleeves, and struggle from within for the Jewish character of the Zionist enterprise, it succeeds. Partial success—but far from negligible. This approach—to remain in partnership and act מתוך faith and optimism—Religious Zionists received from their rabbis: Rabbi Kook, Rabbi Herzog, Rabbi Uziel, and those who continued in their path.
With blessings, S. Tz.
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I don’t think there is more innocence among them than among others. When I meet people personally, I don’t get the impression that they are more naive. They are more attached to the ideology they grew up on, and indeed nothing succeeds in moving them away from their beliefs.
Some praise this (they don’t let reality affect the ideology), and I view it negatively (a lack of critical thinking).
On the political level there is quite a bit of naivete there. That is true. I think that there too it isn’t really naivete but adherence (rather foolish) to ideological principles and ignoring reality.
By the way, despite the differences, and contrary to what A. wrote here, in my view Haredi society is just as naive. They too tend to ignore reality and live in an ideological bubble. The lack of critical thinking is similar in both groups, except that in matters of money and politics they apply it more soberly. The reason is not naivete versus sobriety, but ideologies versus pragmatism in the worldview itself (not necessarily in the personality). In short, I think the difference is not in character but in the outlooks.
Good morning, our teacher, I’d be glad if you could answer me:
https://mikyab.net/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA/%d7%a2%d7%9c-%d7%93%d7%aa-%d7%95%d7%9e%d7%93%d7%a2
For some reason it got missed..
Thanks!
Do you think that Religious Zionists are generally more naive, and if so what causes that?