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Q&A: God Has Abandoned the Earth

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God Has Abandoned the Earth

Question

You were asked about the miracle stories in The Father of Israel, and you answered: “I haven’t read the book… and therefore it’s hard for me to determine. My impression is that in most of these cases we are not dealing with lies, but with a naive interpretation of events and cognitive mistakes based on an enthusiastic prior assumption about the rabbi’s extraordinary abilities.”
If you haven’t read the books, how can you have that impression? If you are presenting a complete and very novel thesis, such that every story of supernatural intervention actually contradicts the whole theory, then how have you not done serious research, met with the people who told those stories, checked the data, testimony by testimony, investigated how far it is possible to explain it by the laws of nature, etc.? You can’t solve everything by claiming that people are stupid, and it only seems to them that everything is a miracle, and really it’s just more convenient for them to believe that. There are important and serious people who signed off on what is written there, and at the very least you have an obligation to clarify their stories with them before uprooting all the plain meanings of the verses and everything the Sages said on the subject.
You were asked about the miracle of the Baba Sali and the arak, which repeated itself before the eyes of very many people, and you didn’t answer. You claimed that Rabbi Eliyahu lied in the video, in saying that he saw the bones of the Chida arrange themselves. Rabbi Eliyahu!!! Lied knowingly and openly. Astounding. The miracles of the Six-Day War…
In short, my question is: did you do serious and comprehensive research on the subject, check testimony by testimony (at least from serious people), and indeed reach the conclusion that it is all nonsense and lies, or did you not investigate? And if not, isn’t a serious person expected to invest energy in that—at least the same energy that one invests in writing a book?
P.S. Have you read the book Above the Senses by Judge Yaakov Bazak? A man who had preconceived notions like yours, and after serious research did in fact change his views. 

Answer

Every person chooses what and how much to devote his time to. To me, these things do not seem worth an in-depth investigation. Maybe I’m mistaken, but that is my impression. If a person cannot express a position without having checked every bizarre claim made anywhere on earth, then there is no room to express positions in our world. I assume you also checked all the stories of magicians and pagan or Christian miracles floating around the universe before you formed a Jewish position regarding them. If you’re interested, I have many more suggestions for what you ought to investigate in the world of magic and mysticism. Wonderful. More power to you.
[In parentheses I would add that I assume you certainly checked carefully at least the stories in the sources you cited, otherwise surely you would not express a position about them. Apparently, in your opinion, that really is worth the effort and time. Fine.]

Discussion on Answer

Yochai (2022-06-26)

First of all, thank you for the quick response.
Second, I am indeed close to people who were around Rabbi Eliyahu for years, and some of the stories happened with them. So apparently I have accurate and reliable information.
Third, the stories about Rabbi Eliyahu are only a tiny fraction of all the stories about the great sages of Israel in general, since there are also dozens of such stories in the Talmud—for example in tractate Taanit, which brings stories about amoraim bringing down rain, such as the story of Rava and Ifra Hurmiz, where it is told that through prayer he brought rain during the month of Tammuz (or maybe that too was probability through a friend of the treasury?), and about greetings from Heaven that amoraim would receive according to their righteousness, and more stories throughout the generations, such as the responsa from Heaven, or the dream of the author of Sefer Mitzvot Gadol, or the story of the Or Zarua. Maimonides too established a thanksgiving day for the miracles done for him, etc. And likewise the stories of Rabbi Chaim about the Vilna Gaon, and the stories of Rabbi Chaim Vital about the Ari, and many, many more, all testifying to particular Divine providence… and from the wording in the penitential prayers, with the phrase “He who answered… He will answer.” (Though it seems you don’t say penitential prayers… or am I mistaken?)
But even if you claim that all those hundreds of stories are untrue, and some are from foolish devotees, and some were fabricated falsely by the great rabbis themselves, and the rest are simply errors in judgment and understanding statistics known only to experts in the field… (by the way, doesn’t it seem arrogant to you to claim that… just to confirm the thesis you decided is correct?)
Here it is possible to check. The people are around us, and even if not all the stories are correct and accurate, if only twenty or thirty percent are true, then the Lord has not abandoned the earth. And perhaps it would be worthwhile to spend some time attending these righteous people and ask how one deepens one’s connection with the Creator? And how one prays?
And in general, the idea that an adult person should need less dependence is certainly an idea that has truth to it and already appears in the writings of the sages of Israel. But on the other hand, the relationship between the Lord and His people also resembles the relationship between a beloved woman and her lover, as is well known, and that requires communication; therefore a situation in which there is no speech and no close relationship is a situation of lack and exile, and it is destined to change as appears in the Torah and the Prophets.
As for the circulating stories, I agree there is no obligation to check every story in the world, but many significant stories that are within reach to investigate, in our own generation and our own surroundings—fairness says to examine them.
In addition, don’t you think that the great sages of the generations had knowledge stemming from higher and spiritual sources, such as divine inspiration, or a spark of the soul, and the like, as Rabbi Kook writes: “At times we are visited by a supernal flash, by the radiance from above, a supreme light beyond every idea and thought. The heavens open and we see visions of God.” (Orot, “Thirst for the Living God”)?

Michi (2022-06-26)

For some reason you didn’t answer me regarding checking the miracles of Christians and other magicians, pagans, and New Age people.
As for your last question, the answer is no. In my opinion they had no knowledge beyond what ordinary human beings have. They could of course have been wiser and had better intuition, like other wise people.
As for investing time, I already wrote my opinion/approach.

Yochai (2022-06-26)

I did answer. “As for the circulating stories, I agree there is no obligation to check every story in the world, but many significant stories that are within reach to investigate, in our own generation and our own surroundings—fairness says to examine them.” First claim.
In addition, logic says that since the great sages of Israel did in fact believe in the true faith, and presumably had a real connection to higher and spiritual worlds, and were also people of high stature and character, there is a much greater likelihood that the Lord answered them. Therefore it makes sense to investigate deeply, lest there be some kernel—or more than a kernel—of truth. That is not the case with the stories of Christians and other magicians, which are far less likely to be true, since they do not believe in the correct faith even according to your own view, and therefore it is less likely that they are reliable, and there is less point in investing time in them. Incidentally, I do not rule out the possibility of miracles and intervention beyond nature even among the nations of the world, or the use of impure powers and the like, as is known in our sources.
From your silence I understand that you agree with what I said, and indeed you hold that all the stories and testimonies about the great sages of Israel, from our own day back to the testimony of the Talmud, are in fact lies and bluffs and beginners’ mistakes. And from here our paths part. By the way, if you cannot believe the testimony of your own people over the generations, who has guaranteed to you that the revelation at Mount Sinai and all Jewish history really happened? What makes one stronger than the other? After all, we are talking about a nation of stupid slaves who worship Baal-Zebub! And don’t know statistics… And if you say, masses saw it—the same applies to the Baba Sali’s arak, and to the miracles of the wars in our land.

Yishai (2022-06-26)

Yochai,
these cases are not comparable at all. In the case of the Baba Sali, it is a matter of people’s interpretation (and definitely not masses at the time), and the same goes for the wars in our land. Indeed, everyone saw the Baba Sali pour arak and the victories of the State of Israel; the question is whether these things are miracles or not. In any case, I heard from a reliable person that against such stories about righteous men he could bring you many stories in which the blessing did not work. In addition, the fact that the Holy One, blessed be He, helps a few righteous people is not a difficulty for Rabbi Michi, who holds that ordinarily there is no intervention by the Holy One, blessed be He, while sporadic intervention remains possible. Also, not every story is to be taken literally, and certainly people tend to embellish and exaggerate. In short, there is no difficulty here.

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