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A Book on Jewish Law and Reality in Our Time

Question

Greetings and blessings
 
First of all,
 
I find the content on your site fascinating—many thanks!
 
After looking through the material on the site, it seems to me that you may find my small attached book of interest.
 
I would be happy to receive comments or insights.

Answer

Following receipt of a booklet on Jewish law and reality
Many thanks. It does indeed seem very interesting. Already from the table of contents I have quite a number of comments, but this is not the place. With God’s help, and without making a vow, when I have time I will review this chapter.
Meanwhile, as a token of gratitude to you for sending me your booklet, I will add two small points, even though I only glanced at it for a second; and if you address this later in your remarks, I ask forgiveness.
A. Regarding what you wrote at the beginning of your book, that one should not take notice of something that cannot be seen by the eye, and you based this on the idea that the Torah was not given to ministering angels: in fact one should distinguish between two meanings, and in my humble opinion you did not distinguish between them. 1. Because the creatures in the water are tiny, it is impossible to forbid them, since people need to drink water and cannot filter it. But that reasoning is not based on the fact that the creatures cannot be seen without a magnifying glass; rather, it is based on the fact that there are many of them and they cannot be filtered out. Based on that reasoning, there would also be room to permit a case where the creatures can in fact be seen by the eye, but they are so numerous that they cannot be filtered out—for example, broccoli, where it is hard to filter out the worms even if they are large and visible to the eye. 2. There is also room to permit this on the grounds that instruments are not considered seeing, and that is an entirely different argument. In my opinion, the reason that the Torah was not given to ministering angels is not relevant here at all—what do ministering angels have to do with this? Is it only ministering angels who have assistive devices? I have never heard of an angel using a magnifying glass. Human beings today have instruments, so why should we not be obligated to use them? And is something seen through eyeglasses also not considered seeing? That too is an unnatural device.
B. As for your claim at the beginning of your book against those who object, “Are you setting one man against another?”—I was surprised that someone as distinguished as you would say this, for after all, your own words too are written on the basis of citing sources (the Tiferet Yisrael and others), and not on the basis of your own reasoning alone. If one may cite an authority who agrees with you as support for your view, why should one not be able to cite an authority who disagrees with you as a refutation of your position? This requires further consideration.
Much success and all the best,

Discussion on Answer

Ron (2018-05-28)

Someone who starts from the assumption that the great sages of the nation and its righteous people in the past did not fail by eating something impure, even accidentally or under duress—”the Holy One, blessed be He, does not bring a stumbling block through the righteous.” And a stumbling block here is not a sin specifically, but any impure food—can conclude from this that, necessarily, drinking water does not involve eating something impure even when it is not filtered through a half-micron filter.
“The Torah was not given to ministering angels” means that in the days of our ancestors, in order to detect the single-celled organisms in water, you would have had to be a ministering angel, and the Torah was not given to ministering angels.
My heart tells me you won’t like this argument, but perhaps this is what the author meant.

Michi (2018-05-29)

Why not? That is certainly a possible argument. But then it should have been based on the idea that the Holy One, blessed be He, does not bring a stumbling block even through the animals of the righteous, and not on ministering angels. After all, even if the Torah had been given only to ministering angels, still the righteous do not bring a stumbling block through themselves.
As for that reasoning itself—that no stumbling block is brought through them—it does not seem convincing to me, although of course people have used it quite a bit. In my view it is not a stumbling block if they did the best they could according to their ability and understanding, and there is no reason that we too should not do the best we can according to our ability and understanding. If today we know how to identify tekhelet, should we not place it on tzitzit because our ancestors did not have tekhelet?

Yishai (2018-05-29)

If the discussion here is about single-celled organisms in water, then there is no reason at all to think they are considered living creatures for the purpose of forbidden foods any more than plants are.

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