Q&A: Skull.it
Skull.it
Question
https://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/752736.shtml#9
What does our master, may he live long, think of the new stringency of the progressives (for healing)?
Answer
Amen (assuming this isn’t fake)
Discussion on Answer
Who said a covenant is only for males (if there is even such a thing as males)? A covenant is whenever there is something to circumcise.
Golem, an androgynos is considered only doubtfully obligated in circumcision.
It is explicit in the Torah:
Genesis 17:10
“Every male among you shall be circumcised”
It seems that either way he should be circumcised, for if he chooses to be male—then we are commanded to circumcise him, and if he chooses to be female—then it is not fitting that she should have a foreskin.
However, there is room for doubt as to whether one may recite a blessing over the circumcision and circumcise him.her on the Sabbath, since only in the future will it be clarified retroactively whether he is commanded in circumcision, and in Torah-level matters we hold that retroactive clarification does not apply. Therefore it seems that his circumcision should be postponed to a weekday and performed without a blessing. This is what appears correct to me.
With blessings, Rabbi.ess, the gender-rabbi of the holy congregation Future Progressive
However, one should also discuss his.her circumcision on a weekday, for perhaps in the future he will choose to regard that day as Sabbath, and it turns out there is here a “possible Sabbath desecration.” Perhaps one may be lenient because of a “double doubt toward obligation,” for perhaps he is male, and even if you say that he is female, perhaps it is a weekday. This requires further study.
And perhaps the circumcision should be postponed until the child grows up, for if the child chooses to be a woman, we hold that “a woman’s right is over her own body,” and one may not circumcise her without her consent 🙂
With blessings, the gender-rabbi of the holy congregation Future Progressive
For a long time now I’ve wondered what progressive parents do when they have a baby. They can’t say “a boy was born to us,” nor “a girl was born to us.” They can’t speak about the male baby or the female baby, Heaven forbid, lest they steer the registered person’s sex. So until the above-mentioned one reaches age 8 and decides for himself whether he is male or female, the parents don’t know whether they have a son or a daughter.
How do they manage with that?
They also can’t buy the child clothes and utensils in blue rather than pink, for the same reason. Apparently they dress the child only in gray.
But the big problem is circumcision, for those among them who are particular about that.
For if it turns out that this is a female, it becomes clear retroactively that there was no place for performing a circumcision—so what do they actually do when the newborn reaches 8 days old?
Perhaps one could say that the progressive Sanhedrin expounds “eight days” as eight years, for in the Torah there are “days” that are years.
If so, in order to perform circumcision two conditions are required: a. the registered person reaches age 8 and decides that he is male. b. there is something to circumcise.
If he decided he is male but there is nothing to circumcise, or if there is something to circumcise but he decided he is female, there is no place for circumcision. And enough said.