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Hostage Deal

Question

Hello and blessings. I’d be glad to hear your opinion on Professor Avi Sagi’s argument:
 
He argues that the only justification for going to war is the principle of self-defense—we must fight in order to protect our citizens, now and in the future. From that comes the justification for the war against Hamas, and from that comes the opposition to a deal so long as it allows Hamas to continue harming Israeli citizens.
 
From there, he moves to the claim that Hamas’s condition has not changed over the past year, and that in principle we already reached, about a year ago (or a bit less, but several significant months ago), sufficiently good protection for Israeli citizens—that is, Hamas lost most of its ability to harm us.
 
From there, he argues that continuing the war (which, as stated, is fully justified) stands in opposition to the moral obligation to free the hostages. Because we have reached sufficient protection (though not maximal protection), the decision to go for a deal is the morally correct one.a0
 
I would add the following to his argument: first, judging by how the war is being conducted, it seems that we are not succeeding in defeating Hamas decisively—whether because of military unprofessionalism, or because of objective conditions that do not allow it. The implication is that there is no achievable purpose to continuing the war, and that strengthens his argument, since we will not succeed in weakening Hamas significantly beyond what we have already done (obviously over the course of 10 years we would succeed to some extent, but the progress would be negligible). Second, some argue that even if we go for a deal, we could return to fighting Hamas even if there is a 10-year ceasefire agreement, because Hamas will always give us a reason to attack it. According to those making this current argument, the claims that the world would not let us do so do not hold water here, because just as we ignored some of what they are telling us right now, we could ignore them in the future as well. The implication is that the principle of self-defense would continue to be preserved despite the deal, since we could always strike.
 
 
I am not claiming that Avi Sagi’s argument, together with my additions, is enough to stop the war and make a deal, but I would be very glad to hear your position on this whole line of argument, and for you to point out its weaknesses (since I know you oppose a deal), and perhaps also what you agree with in it. For example, I’d be interested to know whether you claim that the principle of self-defense is indeed the only justification for going to war.
 
Thanks in advance!

Answer

I don’t accept the premise. One can go to war in order to conquer the Land, for example. That is the halakhic / of Jewish law perspective. Morally, one can debate it, but that too is not simple.
Everything else is just a declaration disguised as an argument. Obviously, if a war has no point and no achievements, it is forbidden to go into it, even apart from the hostages. The dispute is whether that is in fact the situation.
As for the ability to eliminate Hamas in the future, that is a nonsense argument that keeps repeating itself all the time. Hamas was not born today, and they will not return the hostages to us unless it is clear that we will not be able to eliminate them afterward (in my opinion there is no chance they will return all of them in any case and under any circumstances. Such a deal is a fantasy that exists only in the minds of believers in the religion of the hostages). Launching a new war like this one—there is no chance in the world they will let us. Even when there was a pretext like the Simchat Torah events, the world is hostile. And without American backing and supplies, and with an embargo imposed by the UN, let’s see a prime minister go out to a war of annihilation against Hamas.
And finally, we are really not protected right now. The destruction of tens of thousands of terrorists is worth nothing from a defensive standpoint. Hamas is not a military force that threatens our existence, but a terror organization that threatens individuals and the border-area communities around Gaza (and really the whole country with long-range missiles). Those capabilities it has, and it will also be able to improve them in the future (and as stated, we will not be able to go to war on such grounds).
These really are utter nonsense, wrapped in the cloak of a philosophical argument. There is no argument here, only a declaration, and the declaration is wrong. I thought of devoting a column to pseudo-philosophical arguments regarding the hostages. We’ll see.

Discussion on Answer

Itai (2025-04-25)

The truth is, that’s the answer I have—Hamas are smart, and they won’t give us the hostages without being sure we won’t be able to eliminate them afterward.

In what respect do you think the war does have a point? Is there clear progress while we’re there?

And also, what other moral argument could justify going to war, besides the principle of self-defense?

And above all, I’d love the column you’re planning! 🙂

Michi (2025-04-25)

I think it does. If we don’t give up, in the end we will eliminate Hamas. But so long as we haven’t eliminated it completely, we have done almost nothing, as I explained.
Harm to our interests. For example, there is an enemy occupying my territory but not threatening any lives. Does that justify going to war? And if he threatens some other interest of mine? So how is conquering the Land different from that?
By the way, do you have a link to the article?

Itai (2025-04-26)

I wish you’re right.
As for conquering territory, I understand the example. Thank you.

I don’t have a link to a specific article where he talks about this issue. What I know about his position comes from many podcasts I’ve heard with him. He speaks clearly and eloquently, and in my opinion says many sensible things. If you want, I can send you a specific lecture where he talks about this issue.

Michi (2025-04-26)

Yes, I know him. Send me a link, at least so I’ll have a reference for the column.

Not the person who asked the question. But I think this link has part of his approach (2025-04-27)

https://www.google.com/url?.sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DJ2TuDyDkE74&ved=2ahUKEwi4gIKT0veMAxW4X0EAHfk1GgUQtwJ6BAgLEAE&usg=AOvVaw2eIVR9ytNqM9ZwjtType7L

Itai (2025-04-27)

I know his position from bits of podcasts. I didn’t find a podcast where he really gives a systematic analysis of the situation, but you can see here for example (up to minute 14 he talks about it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2TuDyDkE74&t=2300s

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