A question about rabbis who repeatedly appear to me to be just slobs.
Sorry for the weird question, but I'm already bursting.
But really.
Is there some organization that provides kosher answers (and let's assume they don't have political agendas…)
I recently noticed that there are probably people from the lands there or something close to that.
They are of course not ashamed to come out against rabbis and other organizations (perhaps a little more liberal than them, but certainly scholars and not scheming clowns, as if in the guise of righteous people like them).
I've already caught them on 3 occasions in public.
1. A rabbi in his community investigates before risking introducing new products.
He told me that his policy is that when a new slaughterhouse enters the market, he finds out and tries to bring it into his area if it meets the high standards he likes.
And why?
Because usually a new investor who wants to enter the market lowers prices, and it's good for the public to have fresh chicken at an inexpensive price if the kosher certification is satisfactory.
A new slaughterhouse came in and that organization published a statement against it, and the rabbi ordered not to let them in his territory.
But later he invested and investigated and it turned out that this was just a slander they bought from a bitter butcher who was fired, and there is no halachic justification for slandering them.
The rabbi who developed a belief in them told me that he was full of sorrow that he had caused financial damage to the community (one of the great rabbis considered)
2. On the seventh day of last Pesach, which was adjacent to Shabbat, they clarified the laws on how to organize the kitchen for Shabbat (they slightly overstepped the realm of kashrut, which is apparently officially their only agenda) and announced that it is forbidden to have a Shabbat clock on a Yom Tov. I also checked the halachic strict books such as Shashak-Neubirt and others, and it is permissible, Glatt.
I published that they are wrong and misleading and are being unduly strict (just a bunch of people from the countries there who are spouting laws) and they did not apologize or correct. (Their honor is more important than the truth of the Torah apparently)
3. Someone asked them about chips (a plastic-wrapped snack) and they said they weren't allowed.
Why?
(Reasonable) fear of foreign cooking.
I pointed out to the rabbi there that it does not go on the table of kings and that it is a simple street food (and this is what the Rabbi Elyashiv replied, I sent him a testimonial) and that it is permissible, and as expected, he did not back down.
It seems that we are dealing with arrogant, scheming people from mediocre countries and supposedly strict conservatives, while they often slander rabbis and other important organizations. (whose sin is that they are not considered conservatives)
Is it permissible? Is it appropriate? To publish this in public?
In their name specifically?
Who knew how to stay away from these clowns?
Is 3 cases where I happened to be exposed enough?
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- The fact that they received testimony in error is not a disgrace. One witness is faithful to the prohibitions (certainly when there is no presumption, in a new organization). They did not realize that he was a biased witness. It can happen to any of us. I don't think there is a single kosher organization that hasn't fallen into something like this.
- I assume they are basing themselves on a system that they themselves hold, and that is their right. You can disagree with them or not follow them, but there is a long way from this to the conclusion that these are Amarats.
- The question of what comes to the kings' table depends on estimates and it is certainly reasonable that there are differences of opinion about it. After all, it is essentially a question of accepted norms. Just because Rabbi Elyashiv said something does not mean that everyone must agree with him.
- You can publish what you know and what you think in a reasoned manner. If the facts are verified and the positions are reasoned. You can't slander them and say they are clowns or idiots, at least not on the basis you presented here.
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