Another Look at the Connection Between Logic and Facts (Column 752)
With God's help
Dedicated to my former friend, Rabbi Raphael Israel Maayan, may he live and be well
If you resolved one of R. Akiva Eiger's unresolved difficulties, you probably made an even number of mistakes
(Rafi Maayan)
A few days ago I saw a YouTube video in which the speaker presented a logical proof that either you or I do not exist. This is a nice example of problematic use of logical formalization, a topic I have addressed more than once. The formalization leads us to a conclusion that appears absurd on its face, but the route seems logically valid; that is, the conclusion appears, ostensibly, to be necessary. I would like to examine this argument a bit, and use it to sharpen a few important points about the relation between logic and the world.
The Argument
The speaker presents a structure with three claims:
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Claim 1 sounds very plausible to us. The same is true of claim 2. So we shall set them aside (notice: I am not assuming that they are true, only setting them aside). This invites us to begin the discussion with claim 3. Is it true or not? Here we have only two possibilities: a. Claim 3 is false. But then it follows that all three claims in the set are true, including the third. Yet that contradicts the assumption that it itself is false. We have therefore reached a contradiction. So we have proved by reductio that the third claim is true (because the assumption that it is false led us to a contradiction). But if it is true, then at least one of the first two claims must be false, meaning that either you do not exist, or I do not exist, or none of us exists. QED.
Initial Analysis
First, I will ask: what are the premises of this argument? Notice that in the set above no argument actually appears at all. This is not a structure that assumes premises and derives a conclusion from them, but simply a collection of three claims. Nor am I assuming that the structure is correct, that is, that all three claims are true. That itself is the subject of the discussion. At the initial stage I am simply placing this structure before our eyes, and only from here does the argument begin. So where is the argument itself? It begins with an analysis of claim 3. After rejecting the possibility that it is false (because that leads to a contradiction), it reaches the conclusion that it must be true. But if it is true, then its content tells us that at least one of the first two is false (for it itself is true, and there must be at least one of the three that is not). And that is the conclusion of the argument.
So the argument does not appear in the set, but in what is said about the set. Try to think whether you can identify any premises underlying the argument described here. Ostensibly it has none. The claims in the set are the material with which the argument deals, but they are not its premises (an argument does not deal with its own premises; it derives conclusions from them). Kant called such arguments "ontological arguments," and in the past I discussed them in various contexts (for example around the cogito in column 363, and around Anselm's ontological proof—in my book Ha-Matzuy HaRishon, in the first discussion. See also on such arguments in columns 160, 364 and 580).
I will now present two difficulties with this argument.
The First Difficulty: Conclusions about the World without Premises
The first difficulty concerns the very formal move itself: how does this hocus-pocus happen, that we arrive at a conclusion without assuming any premise at all? Notice that this is a conclusion about a fact in the world (the nonexistence of people in it). Can one reach a factual conclusion about the world without assuming any premise?
It is true that sometimes one can reach conclusions about the world even without premises. Take, for example, the conclusion that no round triangle exists in the world, or the conclusion that it is not true that the chair beside me both exists and does not exist at the same time. But these two conclusions are not really factual claims about the world. They are the result of a formal logical rule. My information about the world has not been enriched by these determinations. By contrast, the claim that I do not exist, or the claim that you do not exist, or their combination—all these are straightforward factual claims about the world. This is the anti-cogito: I think, therefore I do not exist.
This difficulty was formulated by Kant with respect to ontological arguments in general. He was not prepared to accept that conceptual analysis without factual premises could yield conclusions that are factual propositions about the world. I have already noted in the past that this claim, in and of itself, is not decisive. If there is a valid argument that yields such a conclusion, it only proves that Kant was wrong. The problem here is that the conclusion itself seems unreasonable to us at the intuitive level, which brings us to the second difficulty.
The Second Difficulty: Absurd yet Necessary Claims
The second question about this argument concerns the content of the conclusion: it is patently illogical, since it is clear to us that we all exist. True, that in itself would not trouble me, because the conclusion of a valid argument can be false if not all of its premises are true. Consider the following argument: All frogs have wings. The chair beside me is a frog. Conclusion: the chair beside me has wings. This argument is valid, and the conclusion is silly. That should not trouble us because the premises on which it is based are silly, so it is no wonder that a silly conclusion is derived from them. An argument that derives a conclusion from premises does not say that the conclusion is true. It only shows that whoever accepts the premises must also accept the conclusion. And from this it follows that whoever does not accept them is exempt from the punishment of the conclusion as well.
The problem is that in our argument here there are no premises, and therefore ostensibly the conclusion is necessary (it assumes nothing, that is, it is true under any system of premises we might choose). If so, a further difficulty now arises: is it really true that none of us exists? An absurd conclusion of an argument without premises is doubly troubling.
Whereas the previous difficulty concerned all ontological arguments and not specifically this one, this difficulty arises only with respect to an argument like this. There are ontological arguments whose conclusion is plausible and sensible, such as Descartes' cogito. There the conclusion is that I do exist, and so I have no problem with it on the level of content. With regard to the cogito there is only the first problem: how can one prove a factual conclusion (even if it is plausible) on the basis of conceptual analysis without premises? But here we are dealing with an argument whose conclusion is absurd on its face. Is a valid logical argument enough, even if we have not found a flaw in it, to compel us to accept a blatantly unreasonable conclusion?
Notice that this problem too is not decisive. In every paradox we face the dilemma whether to accept its implausible conclusion, or to assume that there is a mistake in the argument even if we have not found it (see on this in columns 601 and 654). In fact, here too we have a paradox with a similar structure: a necessary logical argument that appears flawless, whose conclusion is absurd on its face. True, here it is an argument without premises, whereas other paradoxes are based on premises (which seem true), but the principle remains the same: in both cases, if we do not want to remain with the conclusion, we must look for the flaw in the argument (and if it is not ontological, then one may look for a flaw in the premises). And what if we do not find such a flaw? As I explained in those two columns, there is the possibility of assuming that there is a flaw but we have not found it (because our logical capacities are imperfect). Thus, for example, in our case, the conclusion that I or you do not exist sounds so preposterous that any reasonable person understands that there is some flaw in the argument. All that remains is to find it.
So we have two difficulties: a. How is it possible at all that we get a necessary conclusion that is a factual claim about the world from an argument without premises? Are ontological arguments possible? b. How should we relate to an absurd conclusion that is derived from an argument without premises (that is, how should we relate to an absurdity whose truth is necessary)?
The Connection to the Liar Paradox
In fact, we have here a version of the liar paradox (see on it in column 195). Consider, for example, this version of it:
- Sentence (a) is false.
This is a sentence that says of itself that it is false. Hence, if it is true, then its content is true, and its content says that it itself is false. But if it is false, then its content is false, and that means the sentence is true. We arrive at contradictions under each of the two possibilities.
I have often explained that self-reference in itself is not problematic. There are claims that contain self-reference and they do not raise any problem, and certainly do not create a paradox. Take, for example, the following claim: every sentence is made of words. This is a claim that also refers to itself, and yet there is no logical problem here. The problem is that in our argument there is self-reference that creates a problem, and in fact, as we saw, two problems. The conclusion that follows from this is that a claim of this kind does not really assert anything. It is a combination of words that has no meaning. We view it as a paradox because of the assumption that it has meaning, but it does not. If a given claim leads to absurdity, one may view it as a combination of words of the type "virtue is triangular," or "every table stands transparently." All these are combinations of words that ostensibly look like claims, but that is only an appearance. These combinations assert nothing.
Unlike the argument we are dealing with here, the liar paradox is not a proof by contradiction but an endless loop. In the case of the liar paradox, neither of the two possibilities (that the sentence under discussion is true or that it is false) is correct, because each of them leads to a contradiction. In our case, by contrast, only one possibility (that claim 3 is false) leads to a contradiction, and therefore this is not a paradox but rather a proof by contradiction that the second possibility is true (that is, that claim 3 is true).
Nevertheless, there is still self-reference here that very much resembles the liar paradox. After all, claim 3 says that at least one of the three claims (of which it itself is one) is false. In fact, what we have here is a sentence of the following type:
(x) The claim {x * y * z} is false. (the asterisk represents "and")
Notice that claim x itself is part of the content of claim x, and the claim is that the combination that includes it is false. This is exactly the structure of the liar paradox as presented above. Except that here we attached two more claims to that claim, and the falsity claim concerns the conjunction "and" of the three of them. If I decompose this claim according to the rules of logic, I get that claim (x) is an "or" combination of three claims:
(x) Either claim (x) is false, or claim (y) is false, or claim (z) is false.
This already looks very similar to the liar paradox, since the first component is exactly the paradoxical sentence that generates the liar paradox. So of course our suspicion is aroused that something smells logically fishy here.
But notice that unlike the liar paradox, if we want to claim here that this claim is meaningless, that would be an ad hoc claim. Merely because the conclusion embarrasses us, we prefer to say that this claim (the third one) has no meaning. To understand the problem, notice that in the liar paradox this is not an ad hoc claim. There, the assumption that this sentence has meaning leads to a logical contradiction, that is, we proved that the claim is neither true nor false. Therefore, in that case, the assertion that this is a paradox is not added ad hoc merely because of our discomfort, but is logically proved. But in our case, the assumption that claim 3 has meaning leads to an embarrassing conclusion (but not to a contradiction). Is it not proper in such a situation to be honest, admit the result, and adopt the embarrassing conclusion? Ostensibly this argument proved it logically.
A Good Reason to Assume that Claim 3 Is Meaningless
In principle, one can attach any collection of claims to one another and create a structure from which any conclusion whatsoever may be inferred. Suppose you want to prove claim A. No problem; all you have to do is build the following structure:
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Now let us repeat the argument from above: suppose 2 is false, then it follows that both claims are true, and therefore clearly 2 too is true, and we have reached a contradiction. From this it is clear that 2 is true (because the assumption that it is false leads to a contradiction), but from its content it follows that ~A cannot be true, that is, A is true. QED. Here you have a machine for proving any claim on earth. Whatever you put in place of A can be proved in this way. For example, you can place there the claim "God exists" and prove it this way, but also the claim "God does not exist" and prove it in the same manner. One can even prove that this structure does not prove A, if we put in place of A the claim "this structure proves A."
What does this mean? Here I have already shown that this structure should not be taken too seriously, since it can serve us for any purpose we want (including refuting itself). A mechanism that can prove any claim is certainly not a reliable method of proof. And if it can prove a thing and its opposite, then it is certainly not an acceptable proof mechanism. This argument still does not explicitly present the flaw in this argument, but it does give us proof that there is such a flaw (just as in the liar paradox, where this is logically proved). If so, the conclusion that claim 3 is meaningless is no longer just an ad hoc assertion, but truly a proven claim.
But, as stated, I still have not explained what the problem is in such arguments. Ostensibly we have here a valid logical argument. The fact that it leads to absurd results only means that we should suspect it, and indeed that there really is some flaw in it. But we still have not found the flaw. The sting is that claim 2 here (and claim 3 in the original argument above) is in fact meaningless. We have not pointed that out directly, but indirectly we have proved it.
So that we are not left hanging in this way, I will add an aspect that will clarify the matter further, and I will return again to the question of the relation between the truth values of logical claims and the truth of their content.
On Logic, Truth Values, and Facts
Take, for example, claim A: "The chair beside me is made of wood." This is a factual claim. Now look at claim B: "Claim A is true." Ostensibly these are two claims with the same content, since both assert that the chair beside me is made of wood. But they are still not identical claims. The first makes a factual claim about the world, whereas the second says something about the first claim (namely, that it is true). The second is a claim about a claim and not about the world itself.
Notice that in the structures I presented in the two frames above, the first claims (claims 1 and 2 in the first structure, and claim 1 in the second) are factual claims, whereas the final claim (claim 3 in the first and claim 2 in the second) is a claim about claims (including itself, but that is not my focus right now). Notice too that the claim in the liar paradox is a claim about truth values and not about facts. The subject of the claim there is itself. But now I am focusing on another aspect: not self-reference (which, as I noted above, is not necessarily problematic), but the fact that this is a claim about claims and not about the world.
At first glance it seems that this is only a technical difference. On the substantive level there appears to be no difference between claims A and B, since both ultimately speak about a fact and assert something about it. But on a second look it becomes clear that the transition from facts (claim A) to logic (claim B) is not as innocent as it seems at first glance. It conceals pitfalls, and we must pay attention and be careful when making such transitions. In fact, we have already seen in the past two examples that illustrated the point, and so here I will only repeat them briefly. After that, we will return and see that herein lies the problem in arguments like the one with which I opened.
First Example: Logical Determinism
In column 301 I dealt with exactly this topic, and among other things I brought there as an example the argument known as "logical determinism." Aristotle discussed the claim "Tomorrow there will be a sea battle," and asked himself whether this claim is true or false. The truth value of a claim is determined by comparing its content to the state of affairs in the world itself. Therefore, in order to determine the truth value of that claim, we must wait until tomorrow and see whether there will be a sea battle (and then it will become clear that the claim is true) or not (and then it will become clear that the claim is false). But the need to wait for tomorrow is only because of our limitation. It has no connection to the truth value of the claim itself. Therefore, if the truth is that tomorrow there will indeed be a sea battle, then the claim is already true today, only I do not yet know it. The comparison between the content of the claim and the state of affairs in the world (which in practice can only be made tomorrow) reveals to us that this claim is true. And if so, there is no reason to refrain from saying that it is already true today. The conclusion is that in such a case the claim "Tomorrow there will be a sea battle" is already true today. In effect, we assumed here that the truth value of a claim does not depend on time but only on the comparison between its content and the state of affairs in the world. But if that is so, how can it be that tomorrow someone will decide not to hold the sea battle? After all, already today the claim is true, and if tomorrow the battle does not take place, it will turn out that the truth value of the claim is false rather than true. Here, then, is a logical proof in favor of determinism.
Notice that there is a double absurdity here: one who holds a libertarian view, that is, believes in free will, is troubled by the conclusion (the deterministic one). But even one who accepts determinism ought to be troubled by the fact that we proved a factual claim about the world by means of a logical trick (an argument consisting entirely of conceptual analysis, without any premises at all). This strongly recalls the argument we have been discussing here and the two difficulties I presented concerning it. I will not enter here into discussions and proposals about how to deal with this absurdity, and I will jump to my conclusion from there.
A logical trick cannot prove anything to us about reality in the world. Logic is supposed to be empty with respect to facts. In other words, logic deals with relations between claims and not with the content of claims. The content, that is, information about the world, must be learned from observation. Logical inference cannot teach us anything about the world. I argued that the fundamental flaw in that argument is the connection it creates between logic and the world. The fact that a certain claim has a truth value at a certain time does not necessarily say anything factual, and in particular does not mean that the information in question exists at that time. That is only a logical determination and not a fact. The truth value of claims is a definition of logicians, that is, it is a description of how we relate to claims and not a description of some fact. If I know now that tomorrow there will be a sea battle (say, from some reliable source), then indeed tomorrow a sea battle will occur. But if the truth value of the claim "Tomorrow there will be a sea battle" is already fixed today, that does not mean that what will happen tomorrow is already fixed as of today.
If tomorrow a sea battle takes place, then already today that claim is true; but if tomorrow no sea battle takes place, then the truth value of the claim is already false today. Perhaps it sounds strange to you that the future can determine the truth value of a claim in the past, but there is nothing strange about that. The truth value of a claim is not information and is not a fact (as noted, it is our definition). Therefore there is no impediment to the future determining a logical definition of the past. There is an impediment to the future determining information in the past, because causality works from past to future. But the relation between the fact and the truth value of the claim that describes it is not a causal relation (but a definitional one).
See there in that column for implications and arguments concerning free choice and more. For our purposes, the conceptual analysis we carried out of the structure of the three claims lies entirely in the logical sphere. To infer from it a conclusion about the world is a leap that requires justification. We will now see the same phenomenon in a different issue.
Second Example: The Logical Polygraph
In column 200 I dealt with the same topic from another angle. A logical schema was presented there by means of which one can extract the truth from any liar. Without entering into its intricate details (see there), I will describe it briefly here. I formulate a question that the person before me must answer as follows: if X is true, then he must answer "yes," and if not-X is true, then he must answer "no." What does "must" mean? If he answers differently, that drives us into a logical contradiction. But as I explained there, this still does not prevent him from moving his lips in a different way and answering "no" instead of "yes." The fact that I am driven into a logical contradiction will not really stop his lips. The conclusion there was that there is a principled problem in schemas that purport to extract a factual conclusion from logical-conceptual analysis. The world owes nothing to our logical and conceptual definitions, and to the relations among them.
Back to Our Case: This Is Only One Example of the Complex Relation between Logic and the World
In those two columns additional examples and implications of this principle were presented. For our purposes, this means that a conceptual analysis of a system of claims that we wrote on paper cannot yield factual conclusions about the world. And if in some strange way we succeeded in building a system from which a factual claim can be derived without premises, that only points to a flaw in the system we built or in our logic.
It can, however, be argued against this conclusion that we do derive factual conclusions from logical analysis. For example, in the cases mentioned above, regarding the existence of a round triangle, or regarding the fact that it is not true that something both exists and does not exist at the same time. In general, we tend to infer that if some claim contains a contradiction, it is not true, and therefore its expression in the world will not exist. This conclusion deals with facts in the world, even though its basis is a logical argument.
In columns 50 and 318 I addressed from another angle the relation between logic and mathematics and the world. In the examples discussed there, the problem was the formalization (the move from the facts to their formal presentation). The logical form does not represent in a reliable way the facts it purports to represent. Here, by contrast, the problem is the absence of factual content behind the formalization. These are collections of words that are not claims at all, but a façade.
Conclusion: The Different Faces of Ignorance
I will now return to the argument with which I opened. It begins with an argument that deals with claims and moves from there to claims about facts in the world. We have seen that this transition is hasty and liable to lead to failures, contradictions, and absurdities. When there is a logical argument that leads to a factual conclusion that seems problematic, and especially when the argument is ontological, we should suspect that some flaw has crept into it. And even if we have not managed to point it out, it still seems clear to me that it exists somewhere.
Interestingly, in the aforementioned video the speaker concludes by saying that common sense is not enough and one must study logic (the video is an advertisement or promo for a logic course he teaches). But from what we have seen here it emerges that in fact the lesson is the opposite: one who does not study logic is not troubled by these problems. Precisely if I am skilled in logic, I may get into trouble, because someone can present me with the argument he presented and entangle me. True, skill and understanding in logic can also extricate me from these problems, but a clever person does not get into problems from which a wise person manages to escape. We should not forget that the very engagement with these supposed fallacies and the entanglements we experienced here belongs to those who engage in logic. Ordinary folk are exempt from all this because they are not troubled by such arguments. It is intuitively clear to them that there is no problem, and therefore they do not need a solution either.
This raises the question whether I really became wiser after studying logic and, as a result, encountering this proof, and then using my logical knowledge to understand that its conclusion is false. How is my situation different from that of someone who has no interest in logic at all and knew from the outset that there was no problem? Does it not follow from this that logic is mainly a confusing tool? Does engaging this argument really give us a good reason to acquire logical skill?
This recalls the stale discussion about proofs for the existence of God as against simple faith. There too, the basic claim is: why get entangled with philosophy, which may raise various questions that a simple believer is not troubled by, even if in the end philosophical skill will help me prove that God nevertheless exists? Is it not preferable to avoid philosophy and thereby spare myself both the question and the answer? After all, from the outset I already know that God exists, so why get entangled in a field that raises difficulties and then solves them (even assuming that it really does solve them)?
In column 62 I discussed the ethos that glorifies ignorance in various fields. I explained there that even if ignorance has certain beneficial consequences, that does not turn it into something positive. And conversely, even if wisdom has problematic consequences, that only means that we must be careful in using it, but we should not infer from this that we ought to refrain from pursuing wisdom or from being wise. Elsewhere I explained that it is indeed true that excessive cleverness can lead to absurd conclusions, for intellectuals sometimes suffer from a lack of common sense, and in this matter ordinary folk can certainly contribute a perspective of common sense that intellectuals sometimes lack.
And for our purposes, the ignorant person is not troubled by the difficulty raised in the video, whereas the wise person is. An intellectual may draw the conclusion that indeed we do not exist, since he is committed to intellectual honesty and clings to logic more than to common sense. This is of course nonsense, and the ordinary layman, who sometimes is endowed with more common sense, can set him straight. But that only means that one must not be an intellectual cut off from common sense, but neither should one be a layman. The correct conclusion is that one should be an intellectual who is not cut off from common sense.
I have more than once written about the well-known saying (attributed to Rav Kook or to the Vizhnitz Rebbe) that it is preferable to fail in gratuitous love than in gratuitous hatred, whereas in my opinion it is preferable to fail in neither of them (see for example column 62). This is a very common pattern of argument, and of course a fallacious one. When there is a flaw in way A, that does not prove that way B is preferable. If it too has a flaw, one should aspire to way C, which contains neither type of flaw.
If you are aware of the difficulties and have solved them, you have not returned to the starting point. You have returned to your basic beliefs, but with greater depth and richer content. Your beliefs have become more meaningful and better grounded. A former friend of mine (before I became a heretic) used to say that if you resolved one of Rabbi Akiva Eiger's difficulties, you probably have an even number of mistakes. R. Akiva Eiger made one mistake when he failed to understand the Talmudic text. Apparently a certain insight escaped him. If you resolve his difficulty, it is unlikely that you are wiser than he was and that this insight is available to you. It is more likely that you made another mistake that cancels out the first one (or another three or five mistakes). In short, if one is going to err, it is better to make an even number of mistakes.
Is that really so? I think that if one arrives at the correct conclusion on the basis of a canceling-out of mistakes, it is not true that one really holds the correct conclusion. We think that we hold it, but that is only because we erred. It is well known that there are faulty arguments that lead to correct conclusions. Therefore, holding the correct conclusion does not justify false beliefs and faulty arguments that lead to it (see on this in column 52, on the difference between derush (homiletic exposition) and pilpul (sharp dialectic). Holding a correct conclusion by virtue of a faulty argument is derush. I wrote there that in my opinion pilpul is ten times better than it).
Discussion
My conclusion is that we do not exist, and then the paradox was never presented at all, and everything falls nicely into place.
If from the assumption that 3 is not correct we arrived at a contradiction, and therefore statement 3 must be correct, and from this it follows that 1 or 2 or both 1 and 2 are not correct, it seems pretty clear to me that the problem is in this arbitrary structure. There is an implicit assumption here that such a structure is binding in the first place. What I infer from the fact that the assumption that 3 is not correct leads to a contradiction, and therefore to absurdity, is simply that you cannot place 3 alongside true statements.
Editing again because punctuation was missing:
If from the assumption that 3 is not correct we arrived at a contradiction, and therefore statement 3 must be correct, and from this it follows that 1 or 2 or both 1 and 2 are not correct, it seems pretty clear to me that the problem is in this arbitrary structure. There is an implicit assumption here that such a structure is binding in the first place. What I infer from the fact that the assumption that 3 is not correct leads to a contradiction, and therefore to absurdity, is simply that you cannot place 3 alongside true statements.
By the way, instead of statements 1 and 2 you can put in anything that is necessarily true and still reach absurdity. You could write:
1: One plus one equals 2.
2: 2 plus 2 equals 4.
3: …..
There are so many mistakes here that I’ll stop at this point. Turn to Grok for help.
As far as I know, the column is already written. Why did you find it necessary to repeat the points again?
Haha, you’re right😅, I thought maybe I had added something, but apparently not.
From the argument above one can, ostensibly, show that any assumption whatever can be contradicted. The structure of the argument is:
1. Statement 𝑋 is true.
2. At least one of these two statements is not true.
By means of this structure one can, ostensibly, generate a contradiction for any pair of statements, and even arrive at paradoxical conclusions such as that we exist precisely as much as we do not exist. At first glance, one might argue that these things stem from a phenomenon of language-games in the later Wittgensteinian sense—that is, from a collapse of meaning resulting from the breakdown of the rules governing the use of language. However, in my opinion there is no need to appeal to this framework in order to understand the failure, and the problem is logically deeper.
The key, in my view, to understanding the problem lies in Russell’s logic: a set cannot contain itself, and therefore self-reference within an object language is likewise impossible without generating a paradox. Hence proposition-sentences that include reference to themselves are not logically valid. Even sentences that do not generate a contradiction but also add no content—for example, “The sentence I am saying now is true”—are not logically valid, because they contain no information beyond the fact of their utterance.
At first sight, the example “All sentences are made of words” may seem to undermine this claim, since the sentence has content and at the same time refers to all sentences, including itself. But careful examination reveals that there is no self-reference here in the problematic sense: every sentence includes specific content and a syntactic structure, and a sentence’s reference to the syntactic structure of all sentences is not the sentence-content’s referring to itself. The set of sentences from the standpoint of syntactic structure is different from the set defined by the content of specific sentences. Therefore there is no generalization here in which a single sentence defines a set that includes itself in a way that creates a paradox.
It follows that the paradox in the original argument is not the result of a linguistic game (in the Wittgensteinian sense), but of a confusion between language levels—between object language and metalanguage—and a violation of the Russellian principle that forbids a set from defining itself from within.
You write: “With regard to the cogito there is only the first problem: how can one prove a factual conclusion (even if plausible) on the basis of conceptual analysis without assumptions.”
Why not say that “I think” is definitely an assumption, and a completely factual assumption at that (it is not merely “if I think, then I exist,” but rather: “I think”!), and in any case one can derive from it without any difficulty the factual conclusion as well: “I exist”!
I didn’t understand any of this. You are talking about a different fallacy and returning to the fallacy I described. Self-reference is not problematic, and the example that every sentence is made of words is excellent. Your explanation of why that too is a problematic sentence is unclear to me. I do not see a difference between reference to the content of the sentence and to its structure.
I did not speak about Wittgenstein, and not by accident.
Mistake. See my column on the cogito. If that were the case, then it would indeed be possible to prove my existence, even on the basis of the assumption that I am walking. There is no assumption here.
I have seen people solve the liar paradox by saying that such a statement is in fact asserting of itself that it is true. So the statement “this statement is false” actually contradicts itself, since it is really saying “(this statement is true and) this statement is false.”
So here too, ostensibly, one could say that statement C is in fact asserting of itself that it is true. Therefore, to say of itself that it is false is not a contradiction. Therefore, from the outset, the third statement should be read as actually asserting that one of the other statements is not true (because interpreting it as referring to itself is meaningless).
Therefore statement 3 is really saying that statement 1 or 2 is not true. And that is a false statement.
I am addressing here only the central point: why the sentence “Every sentence is made of words” is not problematic.
It seems the impression was created that I claim that it is problematic—but that is not what I meant. On the contrary: this sentence is entirely well-formed, and it is a good example of a reference that does not create a paradox. It simply does not refute the limitation on self-reference.
The reason is that the sentence speaks about the syntactic structure of all sentences, and not about its own content or truth value. This is a metalinguistic reference: it describes a general property of all sentences; it does not state something about its own correctness. Therefore this is not self-reference in the sense that creates paradoxes like “This sentence is false.”
To see the difference:
“This sentence is false” deals with its own truth—and that is exactly the kind of Russellian self-reference that is impossible in an object language.
By contrast, “All sentences are made of words” deals with a general linguistic property, and therefore is not paradoxical at all.
That is: the fact that a sentence includes itself within a broader class is not the problem. A paradox arises only when a sentence tries to determine its own truth value.
Just a small correction to what I wrote earlier: I was a bit mistaken in the formulation. The main difference is not between “a sentence that includes itself as part of the class of all sentences” and self-reference. Self-reference in itself is not forbidden—and it can be perfectly acceptable so long as it concerns other properties of the sentence (for example, structure, length, etc.) and not its truth value.
The problem arises only when a sentence tries to determine its own truth value within the same language. That is precisely the point at which the paradox is created, and where the move to a metalanguage is indeed required.
That is, truth itself is a concept that is always one level above the system to which it applies
You are proposing to forbid self-reference in statements that concern truth value, as opposed to factual statements.
This is an ad hoc solution. It is no different from a blanket negation of all self-referential sentences, or from disqualifying every sentence that begins with the letter kappa.
The problem with ad hoc solutions is that they do not constitute a real solution to the problem, but only the creation of an artificial language in which it is forbidden to express it (this is Stalin’s solution to arguments of criticism).
The reason it is an ad hoc solution is that there are legitimate statements that deal with the truth values of statements and refer to themselves, and there are problematic statements, whether self-referential or not, that deal with their content and not with their truth value (even in the liar paradox this is not a simple case, because the content of the statement is its truth value, and therefore it deals with its content as well and not only with its truth value).
You can see this through the following example: “All statements have a truth value.” This seems like a perfectly kosher sentence, although it deals with the truth value of statements, including this very statement itself.
Let me just clarify one point: I am not coming with the K.G.B. to erase sentences I do not like—this is a currently accepted solution in modern logic.
The picture is this: self-reference in itself is not problematic. The problem arises only when the sentence tries to assign a truth-value to itself within the same language. In such a case the sentence becomes meaningless, just like the rabbi’s favorite sentence: “What’s the difference between a rabbit” (answer: “that its triangular head is more round than yellow”).
By contrast, a sentence like “All sentences have a truth value” concerns all the other sentences. With respect to itself it determines nothing—to settle its truth-value a metalanguage is required. Therefore it is valid with respect to all the other sentences, and silent with respect to itself.
In that sense, there is no essential difference between the example you gave (“All sentences have a truth value”) and the example I gave (“The sentence I am saying now is true”). The difference is only in the scope of the objects the sentences speak about—there are sentences with respect to which the example you gave is valid, and therefore the sentence you gave is valid—the logical principle is identical in both: both stop exactly at the point where a move to a metalanguage is required.
I’m done.
You apparently do not understand that he is referring to what in axiomatic set theory is called “the axiom of foundation.” It is the tenth and last axiom among the ten axioms of Zermelo–Fraenkel. These are axioms by means of which one proves the existence of a set from the existence of other sets from which the set in question is built (and in fact one assumes as a basic set only the existence of the empty set and some infinite set. All the rest are built from them by containing them, etc., and various other construction rules connected with containment and membership). That is all. This axiom effectively says that a set cannot be an element of itself. This is indeed arbitrary, but for some reason it has proved fruitful in this mathematical domain, in areas known only to those mathematicians.
Within axiomatic set theory, for example, one uses Russell’s paradox (and the rest of the axioms other than the axiom of foundation) to prove that there is no set of all sets that do not belong to themselves as an element. The axiom of foundation only added that indeed there is no set in the world that belongs to itself as one of its own elements…
Many thanks for the lesson. I knew all this. But as you wrote, the fact that Zermelo and Fraenkel decided to assume something does not mean that this is what logic says and that this is how one should speak. It is a solution similar to the theory of types in the introduction to the Principia, which instead of solving self-reference paradoxes forbids expressing them. That is how Stalin would solve these paradoxes, as I have mentioned more than once.
I do not see any point in responding to Michi, since he has already exhausted the matter (apparently he is aware of the arguments and disagrees with them). Still, I will note that you are mistaken when you assume that this is an arbitrary axiom. It is not an axiom at all, but a basic conceptual distinction. The concept of truth is defined only in the metalanguage, relative to the object language.
In other words, the meaning of a sentence is the attribution of truth or falsity to a certain state of affairs; an attempt to attribute a truth value to the sentence itself within the same language does not create an additional claim about the world, but rather an empty claim that applies to nothing. That is precisely the reason for Tarski’s restriction, and not an ad hoc assumption or an arbitrary axiom.
The correct formulation of your point is that every person who makes any claim whatsoever about the world (and also about claims and in general) is also implicitly claiming that the claim he made is true. And in this way he is also effectively making an additional infinity of claims in the form of a tower about the truth value of the claims that precede them one level below them in the tower.
And since that is so, a person cannot state the liar paradox claim. Because a person cannot really state that a claim he is making is false (unless he is lying).
This really feels like the true solution to the paradox (and therefore also to the structure presented at the beginning of the article). Because it follows from the meaning of the concept of making a claim, and therefore also from the meaning of the concept of a claim itself. Claims do not simply exist. They are claimed by someone who believes in them. Therefore the claim of the liar paradox cannot really be claimed by anyone. And that is why it is meaningless. It is simply not a claim.
This is quite similar to claiming that Descartes’ cogito proves the existence of the one who thinks from the very existence of the claim “I think,” because that claim is itself a thought, and thoughts do not simply exist. They are thought by someone.
Yes, I’d be glad to hear a response to the point raised by the commenter:
“Most of the great breakthroughs in philosophy, mathematics, and physics began precisely with arguments that looked absurd on the surface and forced us to change our basic assumptions”
Are there not cases in which mathematical/philosophical tools allow us to reach plainly non-intuitive results? For example, the birthday paradox and the like.
Of course there are. So what?
The innocent reader who does not understand much logic would be happy for an explanation why.
I read the column twice, and I have to say honestly: in my opinion, you missed the central point here, and by a lot.
The argument from the video is not “an ontological argument trying to prove a fact about the world,” nor does it move at all from “pure logic to facts,” as you wrote again and again.
It is a classic self-referential paradox, from exactly the same family as the liar paradox, Russell’s paradox, or “the catalog of all catalogs that do not contain themselves.”
It is not claiming that “someone here does not exist in the real world.”
It is simply showing that the system made up of these three statements cannot be consistent within a single language. That is, it is a proof by contradiction that our hidden assumption (that one can speak simultaneously about the speaker’s existence and the readers’ existence on the same logical plane) is mistaken.
In other words: the only factual assumption that enters here is precisely the one the argument dismantles—so there is no “illicit leap” from logic to facts here, but rather an exposure of a problem in the metalanguage in which we formulate the argument.
Your repeated comparison to “a round triangle does not exist” is simply irrelevant: there we are dealing with an internal analytical contradiction within a single concept. Here we are dealing with a contradiction that appears only when several seemingly innocent concepts are combined (my existence / your existence / disjunction)—and that is exactly what makes these paradoxes interesting and important.
Likewise, the repeated phrase “an argument without factual assumptions” is incorrect: there is one enormous factual assumption here—that the existence of the speaker and the existence of the audience belong to the same ontological category and can be discussed under the same logical rules. And the argument shows that this is impossible.
Finally, your call to be suspicious of every ontological argument because it leads to absurdity and to return to “common sense” sounds plainly anti-philosophical to me. Most of the great breakthroughs in philosophy, mathematics, and physics began precisely with arguments that looked absurd on the surface and forced us to change our basic assumptions (Kant, Gödel, Einstein—they all worked that way).
In short: the argument from the video does not fail—it succeeds too well. It shows us that our language explodes when we try to speak simultaneously about the existence of the speaker and the existence of the reader. And that is a much deeper and more disturbing lesson than the reassuring conclusion you offered at the end of the column.
With thanks and great respect,
one of your veteran readers (who actually likes most of your columns very much, but here really felt that something had gone wrong).
(Written, well, courtesy of Grok)