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On the Moral Saint (Column 240)

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In the last two columns I discussed a Platonic approach to reality and some of its implications (see note 1 in the previous column).[1] I brought examples of Platonic approaches that see the world as a stage, with daimons and abstract ideas holding the strings and moving the puppets upon it, and that judge people according to the metaphysics that supposedly drives them. I presented an outlook that rejects such approaches, and argued that we should judge phenomena and people by what they are, not by what they represent and what supposedly drives them.

These discussions brought to mind an article by Susan Wolf[2], moral saints,[3] which I read not long ago, and which deals with a figure she calls the "moral saint." Her claim is that this figure, which ostensibly appears morally perfect, is far from that. Beyond the importance of the discussion of this point itself, I thought it worthwhile to clarify (first of all for myself) the connection between it and the two columns mentioned above. It seems to me that at the root of this association lies a discussion that took place in Column 236 on spiritual solipsism, whose connection to the last two columns (238-9) I had not yet noted. In this column I will try, among other things, to focus on that point.

"The Moral Saint": Definition

Wolf deals with a typological figure she calls the "moral saint," a person whose every action is morally perfect to the highest possible degree. Put differently, this is a person whose entire life and energy are devoted to benefiting others.[4] In the course of her discussion she distinguishes between the "loving saint" and the "rational saint." The former acts out of love. His perfect happiness comes from benefiting others or bringing happiness to others. The loving saint does not feel that he pays any price when he devotes effort and resources to the happiness and joy of others. The rational saint, by contrast, is Kantian. He acts out of commitment to the principle of perfect morality, but at times he pays a price for this. His happiness is constructed similarly to that of ordinary human beings (including elements of self-realization and various interests), but he restrains his impulse and overcomes his egoistic desires in order to engage solely in perfectly benefiting others.

Before I continue, I need to remove the "loving saint" from the table. In my view, this saint is not saintly in a moral and evaluative sense, but at most a person with whom it is pleasant to live (and even that is not certain). His goodness is not the result of an evaluative decision, but of the fact that he is simply built that way. He benefits others like a sheep that enjoys helping its companions or is not inclined to harm them. My view is that a person deserves no moral or evaluative credit for the way he is constituted, only for the decisions he makes. Therefore, from here on I will focus on the figure of the "rational saint," while the loving saint will serve only as an antithesis to sharpen certain points.

Wolf's Claims

Wolf argues that a life of moral sainthood (of both types mentioned above) is not a life we would aspire to find ourselves living. This is not the model most of us would choose to imitate, and we do not regard it as a desirable or good figure, certainly not a perfect one. There is a common feeling that a person ought to engage in other things as well, such as completing his education and fulfilling his aspirations, striving for excellence in various fields, engaging in creation and creativity, artistic or otherwise, or simply ordinary enjoyments as people commonly do. All of these are human pursuits, at least some of which are unrelated to morality and moral sanctity. The moral saint may perhaps acquire these virtues or engage in these fields as well (for example, he may devote his life to developing other people's creativity, and in the process develop his own), but for him this happens only incidentally ("a happy accident," as she puts it). This is not part of the definition of the moral saint, nor will these be ends in themselves for him.

In short, the complete and positive person in our ordinary conception is supposed to engage in fields that are unrelated to morality and do not stem from moral motives, and therefore stand in tension with the figure of the moral saint. Clearly, none of these pursuits is necessary in our ideal model, but the total absence of all of them is "barren and strange," in her phrase; that is, humanly unacceptable, and even evaluatively so. We value people whose morality appears within a more colorful mode of life, one that includes diverse pursuits and interests. Wolf writes that "there is a limit to how much morality we are willing or able to stomach." Therefore, she argues, it surprisingly follows that the moral saint is not, in our eyes, a complete person.

From this one may conclude that moral values are not the only values in our world. Our arsenal of values contains values beyond moral values, and a complete person should conduct himself in light of all of them. Moreover, she argues that there is not even any necessity to assume that moral values are the most important, that is, even the scale of values (the hierarchy among them) is not built unambiguously in the moral direction. A model in which moral values take over a person's life is troubling, because it involves a lack, or even an outright denial, of the saint's selfhood. He may indeed be saintly, but he is certainly not an ideal human being.

Wolf goes on to distinguish between two basic ethical approaches (see them in the fourth notebook, part 3): the utilitarian and the Kantian. The utilitarian approach to morality is consequentialist, grounding conduct in considerations of utility (of the person himself—egoism, or of others, or even of the world as a whole). The Kantian approach is deontological, that is, based on moral intention and not necessarily on results. Her claim is that adherents of both of these ethical conceptions oppose the model of the moral saint as a perfect person. The reason is that even the Kantian, who defines morality along the lines of moral sanctity as described here, holds that morality as a whole is only one part of his evaluative world. Therefore moral perfection is not human perfection.

The most significant claim in the article is that the term "good" is broader than moral good on the one hand, but on the other hand it is also not exhausted by what is good for the person himself (the utilitarian notion). In other words, her basic claim is that there are values beyond moral values, but the other values (those beyond moral values) are not interests but another kind of values. That is, engagement with them is not a necessary evil, a compromise we make with human nature; they are part of human wholeness from the outset. Without this addition, what the article offered would have been only a factual description (how we view one figure or another). Here an evaluative claim is already being presented (how one ought to view it).

Preliminary Discussion: What Is Wrong with the Moral Saint?

I have already dealt here several times in the past with the multiplicity of kinds of values. In Column 15 I discussed moral values versus religious values and argued that these are different kinds of values belonging to different evaluative systems (I argued that, at least in a certain sense, morality is a category foreign to Jewish law). In Column 154 (see also Column 155, and other columns and responsa on the site) I discussed what I called "aesthetic values" (values that are connected in some way to morality, but whose basis is actually a natural disgust toward certain actions and an appreciation for other actions), and argued that the root of these values is probably in social conventions.

All these kinds of values are values in the same sense as moral values. This may be a different type of values, but they are still all values. Moral values and religious values, and probably aesthetic values as well (in the above sense), are values by which we judge people, for praise or blame. One who does not act in accordance with them deserves censure and even the imposition of various social or legal sanctions. By contrast, values such as creativity, talent, self-realization, intellectual depth, or originality are not values in that sense. These are human virtues that we appreciate, but their absence certainly does not justify imposing a sanction. This is not an obligation incumbent on a person, although if he engages in them he has some human virtue (even if not a moral one). One may say that these are optional rather than obligatory moral commandments. In my book Two Wagons I distinguished in this context between values and 'values' (those that carry no sanction), and argued that in a postmodern world there ought not to be values, but only, if anything, 'values.'

If so, the novelty in the existence of different kinds of values is not very far-reaching. On the contrary, insofar as there is something novel in her words, I think it is mistaken. She wants to argue that our positive view of a person who is complete in the sense of his 'values'—that is, the conception that sees him as a more ideal figure than the moral saint (the one who devotes his life to values, without quotation marks)—is not merely a description of our (miserable?) condition. It is a normatively valid attitude. This is how it is proper to view these figures.

Personally, I was not persuaded by her argument. It seems to me that she conflates feelings/emotions with intuitions (and in my opinion this is true of several of her other articles as well). The fact that we see a person who engages in artistic creation, consumes literature, and acquires knowledge in various fields as a more complete human being may be the result of a subjective emotion or feeling on our part, that is, a fact and not a normative conception. Wolf assumes that if we have such feelings they necessarily have objective meaning and validity, but that is of course not necessary. One can of course argue this regarding moral values as well (for it is difficult to provide an objective justification for them too), but I claim that even one who accepts the objective validity of moral values (as I do) can easily deny the objective validity of these feelings. These are not even aesthetic values (which justify sanctions, at least within the society that agreed to them). Here we are dealing with some sort of mere appreciation, but it does not necessarily have objectively valid moral standing.

This is especially true if we place engagement in the other 'values' opposite additional engagement in moral values and benefiting others (values, without quotation marks). In all the above sources I pointed out that it is difficult to rank these kinds of values against one another. These are parallel systems designed to achieve different goals, and therefore it is hard to speak about which is more important than which and to establish a scale between them (even more so than a scale among values of the same type, which is itself not a simple matter). Thus, for example, in clashes between moral values and religious values, because they belong to different fields and contexts it is difficult to decide which overrides which, and which stands above which on a universal scale of values (the claim, in fact, is that there is no such scale). But Wolf definitely does rank them, since in her view one who engages only in values without 'values' stands lower than one who engages also in 'values.' That is, the 'values,' at least in some measure, are ranked above the values. But that already does not seem at all plausible. Even if we see these 'values' as human virtues worthy of some appreciation, what justifies viewing one who engages in them at the expense of benefiting others as more complete than one who engages only in benefiting others (the moral saint)? Perhaps an educated person is more worthy of appreciation than an ignoramus, but if the ignoramus is such because he devotes his life to benefiting others, is it not right to value him more than the educated person? At most one can say that morally the ignoramus is more complete, and intellectually the wise person is more complete. But if it is possible at all to establish some bottom line here that summarizes the two aspects, I do not see why the selfish wise person is preferable to the altruistic ignoramus.

Think about aesthetic values (conventions regarding repellent acts—the ones prohibited in Jewish law under do not make yourselves disgusting, although they carry no moral disgrace). Even if we accord them some importance, it is likely not comparable to the importance of moral values or religious values. This is certainly true of 'values' such as self-realization, creativity, and the like. It may not be right or fitting to demand of a person that he give up his selfhood and devote his entire life to others, but one who nevertheless decides to do so surely deserves the highest possible credit, does he not? Are Rabbi Aryeh Levin or Mother Teresa, who are perhaps the figures closest to what Wolf calls a moral saint, not more worthy of appreciation than any artist or intellectual who realizes his talents?![5]

Seemingly, the required conclusion is that the feelings many of us have toward the moral saint (as Wolf describes him) may perhaps stem from the fact that we ourselves are not on the level of moral saints, and therefore cannot contain such a level of perfect sanctity (in Wolf's phrase). It seems to us in some sense inhuman (it is not us), and perhaps even arouses envy in us. When we see perfect people, we tend to compare them to ourselves and justify ourselves by saying that moral sanctity is not human perfection. But that is our weakness (perhaps a forgivable one). I do not see how one can infer from this that there is truly something flawed in moral sanctity. As stated, it seems that Wolf is conflating feelings with objective evaluation here. If she means to describe what people feel, that is a factual claim and there is not much novelty in it. But it is clear that she intends something stronger: to make an evaluative claim (not merely to describe feelings that we have, but to point to their validity. That is, to argue that it is proper to feel this way).

And yet, at the end of the day, a fleeting feeling steals into my heart that there is something to Wolf's claim. There is something problematic about the moral saint, and not only on the level of conventions. This is not merely self-defense, or the projection of veiled envy of this complete person (because of our human weaknesses). So what, after all, is problematic in the picture of the moral saint as Wolf presents it?

A Religious Explanation: On Ends and Means

The feeling that self-realization is no less important than moral conduct may perhaps be better understood if we view it through the prism of ends and means. In the fifth notebook I pointed out that it is not reasonable to claim that morality is the purpose of man and of creation. I explained this by saying that morality is meant to ensure a healthy society and functioning people, but what are creation and people themselves for? If the purpose of creation were only to benefit them, it would have been better not to create them at all, and there would have been no need for such beneficence. I therefore concluded that it is reasonable to assume that there is some goal that those people who were created are intended to attain. When there is a healthy society and functioning people, they can act to achieve their goals. In that sense, morality, despite its importance, is necessarily only a means. Beyond it there is a greater end for the sake of which this whole game is intended. Morality is more basic but less important (that is, lower on the scale of goals, or values). There I suggested that this greater end is the set of religious goals that the commandments are meant to achieve, but even if one does not accept that suggestion, the logic seems correct to me. Morality looks more like a means than like an end.[6]

This idea can be illustrated by the charming story of the poor Chinese man who received two small coins as charity and bought with them a slice of bread and a flower. When he was asked why he had not bought two slices of bread, he answered that the bread is meant for living, but the flower gives us a purpose for which to live. There is no point in devoting our lives to worrying about the means if that comes at the expense of attaining the goal.[7] This is somewhat similar to a common reasoning that explains why Torah study, which is the most important commandment (Torah study is equal to all of them — Torah study is equal to them all; Peah 1:1), is set aside for any time-sensitive commandment (see Mo'ed Katan 9b).[8] In part of Meiri's discussion there (ibid.) one can understand that study is meant so that we may act, and if because of study we refrain from doing what we learn, then the study itself is worthless.[9] So too one should understand the Talmud in Kiddushin 29b:

The Rabbis taught: If both he and his son must study, he takes precedence over his son. Rabbi Judah says: If his son is diligent, sharp, and his learning endures, then his son takes precedence over him. (Our Rabbis taught: if he and his son both need to study, he takes precedence over his son. Rabbi Yehuda says: if his son is diligent and sharp and his learning is well retained, his son takes precedence.)

We see from here that basically the father takes precedence over the son, unless the son has greater talent. The idea underlying this rule is that the general purpose of the chain of transmission of the Torah as a whole is to increase Torah and glorify it, and if each person concerns himself with his son's study instead of studying himself and increasing Torah, then everyone is occupied with the means and no one will bring the matter to its goal (the increase of Torah). Passing the Torah onward is a means so that in the course of this ongoing transmission the Torah may grow and increase. And if everyone is occupied with the means, the goal for which all this is intended will not be achieved.[10]

From this one may perhaps understand why self-realization is no less important, and perhaps more important, than moral activity. Ultimately, moral activity is intended to create a healthy and proper society and functioning people. But people and society are intended to achieve some goal, such as knowledge, understanding, creation, intellectual depth, and the like. Therefore it is not reasonable to engage only in morality and neglect the goal for which it is intended.

Something like this is written by Maimonides in the concluding chapter of the Guide of the Perplexed, where he describes four kinds of perfection and ranks them:

And after what we have already set before you, I shall now say this: the early and later philosophers have already explained that the perfections found in a human being are of four kinds. The first, and the lowest of them—the one for which the people of the world have exhausted their days—is the perfection of possessions, that is, whatever money, garments, utensils, servants, lands, and the like a person may have. Even for a person to be a great king belongs to this category. This is a perfection that has no real connection at all with that individual; it is only a relation, and in terms of the greater benefit he derives from it, it is wholly imaginary—meaning: this is my house, this is my servant, this money is mine, these are my troops and my army. But when one examines his actual self, one finds that all these things are external to him. Each of these possessions exists independently in its own right. Therefore, when that relation disappears, that man who had been a great king can awaken with no difference between him and the lowliest of men, without any change at all having occurred in the things that had been attributed to him. The philosophers explained that one who directs his efforts and labor toward this kind of perfection has labored only for something purely imaginary, something that has no permanence. Even if he retains that possession all the days of his life, it gives him no perfection in himself at all. The second kind is more dependent on the human body than the first: it is the perfection of the body's structure, constitution, and form—that is, that a person's temperament be in the most balanced condition, and that his limbs be proportioned and strong as they ought to be. This kind of perfection as well should not be made the ultimate aim, because it is a bodily perfection. It belongs to a person not insofar as he is human, but insofar as he is an animal, and in this he shares with even the lowliest of animals. Even if the strength of some human being were brought to the highest possible level, it still would not equal the strength of a sturdy mule, much less that of a lion or an elephant. The end of this perfection, as we have mentioned, is to carry a heavy burden, break a thick bone, and the like—things in which there is no great bodily benefit, while any benefit to the soul is entirely absent from this category. The third kind is more internal to the human body than the second: it is the perfection of moral virtues, namely, that a person's traits should attain their highest excellence. Most of the commandments are only for the sake of bringing a person to this kind of perfection. But this kind of perfection too is only a preparation for something else and is not an end in itself, for all moral qualities concern only the relation between a person and others. Thus this perfection in character is as though prepared for the benefit of other people and serves as an instrument for something beyond itself. For if you imagine a person living entirely alone, with no dealings with anyone else, all his good qualities would remain idle, unnecessary, and would not perfect him in any way. He needs them and gains their benefit only in relation to others. The fourth kind is the true human perfection: that a person attain the intellectual virtues, meaning the conception of intelligibles from which one learns true opinions concerning the divine. This is the ultimate end. It perfects a person with true perfection; it belongs to him alone; through it he attains eternal permanence; and through it a human being is truly human. Examine each of the three preceding perfections, and you will find that they are for others, not for you. Even if, according to common understanding, they must also belong to you, still they are yours and others' alike. But this final perfection is yours alone; no one else shares in it with you at all. It will be yours alone and not shared with strangers. Therefore it is fitting that your efforts be directed toward attaining what remains truly yours, and that you not toil and wear yourself out for others…

He explains that morality and the repair of society, that is, the collection of duties toward others, are means to the acquisition of wisdom. Therefore the final goal for which everything is intended is intellectual-spiritual perfection, the acquisition of wisdom, and that is something a person acquires by himself and for himself. Society is a means by which the individual can attain his goal, and for this the world was created. Hence morality and character traits, whose purpose is the repair of society, are means to the great goal: self-realization and spiritual-intellectual perfection.

If so, the moral saint really is an incomplete figure, since he devotes all his life and resources to the means and neglects the end. This may perhaps explain the feeling Susan Wolf describes, according to which the moral saint is not a complete person.

Difficulties with the Proposed Explanation

But even this seems only a partial explanation. First, one can think of a division of tasks within a social framework. Even if there are other goals that society should achieve, why should there not be certain people who take upon themselves the care of society itself, thereby enabling others to achieve their goals? In the example we saw from the Talmud, for example, a father who sees that his son is more talented than he is should devote himself to the advancement of his son. In the final analysis the goals of society are thus achieved better, and therefore the father is acting correctly in sacrificing his own development for the sake of his son. And I do not see why such a father would be an incomplete figure in our eyes. Why should we demand of him that he pursue his own perfection at his son's expense? In a human society there will always be people of one sort and people of another, and it is not reasonable to demand that everyone conduct himself in the same way (that no one be a moral saint). In general, a single utopian figure for all human beings is always a problematic model. At most, one can speak about a perfect society within which not everyone is a moral saint, but it does not seem reasonable that each of its members who is a moral saint should necessarily be considered flawed (incomplete).

Moreover, Susan Wolf certainly does not write from a religious point of departure. Therefore it is difficult for me to accept that the intuitions she describes are based on the claim that the world has a purpose and that this disqualifies engagement with means. Such a purpose can be given only by a Creator. That is not the point of departure from which Wolf's philosophical inquiry proceeds. In general, philosophy, and certainly analytic philosophy, ought not to assume such a premise. We arrive at the surprising conclusion that specifically in a religious worldview the conclusion is called for that the moral saint is indeed not a complete figure. A person must engage also in his own perfection and not only in others. But in a secular outlook, according to which the world has no purposes and everything is a matter of values that we determine, it is not clear why personal completion and self-realization should override moral values.[11]

In sum, it is not likely that this is the explanation of Wolf's claim. If my sense is correct that there is justice in what she says, that is, that there is nevertheless something flawed in moral sanctity as such, it is not only because of engagement with means instead of ends. Moreover, even if on the social plane there is justification for a certain person to be a moral saint, there is something flawed in this figure on the personal plane. The question is what flaw can be found in it.

The Lord saves man and beast ("Man and beast You save, O Lord")

On the face of it, it seems that Wolf means to say something different. The feeling she describes means that such a moral saint is a kind of machine and not a human being, and therefore he cannot be a model of human perfection, in the spirit of The Torah was not given to the ministering angels (the Torah was not given to the ministering angels; Yoma 30a) or those who ate the manna ("to the eaters of manna"; Mekhilta, Beshalach). This may perhaps be a perfect creature in a certain respect, but it is difficult to see in it a complete human being (!).

Here perhaps is the place to return to the distinction she makes between the loving saint and the rational saint. Precisely the rational saint looks like a kind of machine. He does not follow his tendencies and impulses as all flesh ordinarily does; every one of his steps is weighed on the scales of morality and values. He does not flow naturally but conducts himself in a calculated and mechanical way. By contrast, the loving saint actually seems like a flesh-and-blood human being and not a machine. He is a person driven by impulses and interests, and he "flows" with the good that is ingrained and internalized within him, rather than dictated by him against his natural tendencies (in Rabbi Kook's terms[12] he is "straight" and not "conquering").[13]

But this is not correct. The loving saint is not a person who acts on the basis of values, but a person whose tendencies are naturally good. It is difficult to see such a person as a complete human being, and even to give him credit for his natural tendencies. A complete human being is one who decides on proper and good conduct even when this runs against his natural tendencies. In Kantian ethics (which, in my view, has no alternative), precisely the rational saint seems a figure of a more complete person.[14] He is certainly not a machine, but a human being in the full sense of the word. A person who takes the reins of his life into his own hands, and does not let the horses lead the wagon. He decides and directs the wagon and the horses in the direction he chooses. Precisely because this comes out of struggle, there is here a fuller human being.

So the moral saint is certainly not a machine. What, then, is so bad (or incomplete) about him? It seems to me that here, at long last, we arrive at my previous two columns.

The Connection Between the Moral Saint and Spiritual Solipsism

In Column 236 I explained that the directives of Jewish law regarding emotions are an instance of love that depends on something (love that depends on something). Thus, for example, the commandment to love the convert, which is defined as love for him because of his convert status (and not simply to love him), may lead to the conclusion that the love is not directed toward the person but toward the value or idea reflected in him and in his path. The same is true regarding hatred of the wicked or sinners. There too, the hatred is ostensibly supposed to be directed toward ideas and values, not toward people. In the terms of the last two columns, this is spiritual solipsism, that is, a person who sees around him not people but ideas and concepts. He stands alone before the ideas and before the Holy One, blessed be He, and the people, those those who dwell in houses of clay (= we, all of us), are only a means for fulfilling his obligations. Even his emotions are directed toward the ideas and not toward people. I noted there that this is actually a Platonic outlook. We do not see before us concrete people but ideas and processes.

I explained there that it is easy and tempting, from those halakhic definitions, to arrive at the (Platonic) formulation according to which love is not supposed to be directed toward the person but toward the decision or the values he expresses. Spiritual solipsism is usually derived from a Platonic approach. We saw there that from the spiritual solipsist's point of view, other human beings are extras (background figures in a movie), whose entire role is only to constitute a field of conduct for him before his Creator. He gives charity in order to be righteous (before his Creator), and loves people in order to discharge the obligation of the commandment to love them. So there is actually Platonism here. From the solipsist's point of view, there are no concrete human beings around him, only ideas and values. People are at most human-shaped targets, and the world is a playground or shooting range through which the Holy One, blessed be He, puts us in order to test us. This is a Platonic (and also Marxist) outlook that sees the human being as the concrete expression of ideas, where what matters is mainly the ideational foundation and not the person.

Kantian ethics as well (which, as stated, in my view has no alternative), which holds that a moral act is an act done out of a voluntary-rational decision (responding to the categorical imperative) and not out of emotion or other motives, can easily lead to such a view. The emotion of pity, for example, is no exception to this. When I see a poor person, I should give him charity because that is the right thing, not because I pity him (though of course there is no defect in such pity existing). Giving that comes from pity is an action that places the giver at the center (see Column 236) and not the poor person. Such a person gives charity in order to relieve a distress that exists within himself and not because it is the right thing to do. That is why Kant does not see this as a moral act. The same applies on the religious-legal plane. A person is supposed to observe commandments by force of the command, and not because of identification, or love and attraction of one sort or another to things. Seemingly, a Platonic conclusion is called for from here too. A person is supposed to act on the basis of values and not on the basis of emotions, and therefore the focus of his activity should be the ideas and values and not the people who are the objects of those ideas and the bearers of those ideals.

But as I explained there, this is a mistake. Even in the Kantian conception of morality and of Jewish law, where the commands place the ideals at the center, in the final analysis emotions are supposed to be directed toward human beings. By the same token, I now claim, moral values in general are supposed to be directed toward human beings. We all know people who are moral saints in the sense that their entire life and energy are devoted to the realization of values and ideologies, but they live wholly within the sphere of values. They do not see human beings before them. Idealists are people with whom and beside whom it is very hard to live. They are demanding, tend to ignore human weaknesses, and focus on values and ideals. Someone I know once said: "I have no friends; I have only companions for the road." From his point of view, the road overrides friendship. This is how the communists conceived of the individual human being as "grease on the wheels of the revolution." Although the revolution as a whole is meant to benefit the individual human being (to equalize his condition with that of other people), on the way it is willing to sacrifice all individual human beings, especially those who do not go along with it, but also those who do, in order to achieve the goal. This is ideological derangement, which from an excess of ideology has lost its relation to human beings. In the communist revolution this had extreme expressions, but anyone familiar with ideologues knows that there is something of this in almost all of them.

It is important to understand that this really is a kind of moral saint, since he devotes his entire life and energy to the realization of ideals, and in fact ideologies. But precisely because of this it is difficult and unreasonable to see him as a perfect person. A perfect person is a person who sees human beings before him. Usually this means that he will not be a moral saint, if only because he too is a human being, and therefore he himself is also one of those whose impulses and interests must be taken into account, and of course also whose self-realization and desire for self-perfection.

The moral saint in this sense is a spiritual solipsist, and there is no wonder that we have difficult feelings toward him, that is, that we do not see him as a perfect person. This is not because he is focusing on means and not on ends, nor necessarily because of our weaknesses (though perhaps yes?…). It is simply not truly a complete figure. A figure that lives and dances with ideas instead of interacting with people is not a morally perfect figure.

If we return to the distinction I made above, this is another kind of mechanicity. I said that the Kantian is not a mechanical person, but I was referring to a person who acts in a Kantian way. By contrast, the figure I described here is indeed flawed because of a mechanical mode of conduct, but the mechanicity is not on the side of the actor but on the side of the recipient. I explained that a person who decides rationally is not mechanical, and there is no defect in that. But if he lives facing ideas, then what stands before him is ideas and not human beings. In that sense there is mechanicity here (not on the side of the actor but on the side of the objects of his activity), that is, ideology and not an approach to people, and in this I do see a defect or deficiency in moral perfection. Perhaps this is why we see the moral saint as a flawed (incomplete) person.

I must say that this description is not necessary, because it does not fully explain the problem with the moral saint. In principle, a moral saint may indeed relate to people and not to ideas. Not every moral saint is a spiritual solipsist. There may be a moral saint who truly and sincerely cares with all his energy and resources for people and not for ideas and ideologies. About such a person I truly have no bad word to say. Regarding him, I really think Susan Wolf is wrong, and that he is indeed a complete person. What I am offering here is only an explanation for the general feeling she describes, as though there were a defect in moral sanctity. I am suggesting that perhaps this feeling refers only to a certain kind of moral sanctity, namely spiritual solipsism.

If we return to the two examples I mentioned, Mother Teresa and Rabbi Aryeh Levin, it seems to me that their figures (not exactly the concrete people they were, who certainly were not perfect) do represent genuine moral sanctity. They were not spiritual solipsists, since at least in my estimation they definitely saw human beings before their eyes and not ideas. Such a person is indeed a complete person, and if we have difficult feelings toward him, that is probably only because of envy, or because of an unjustified projection of the attitude that is appropriate toward moral solipsists (that is, the implicit assumption that every moral saint is a spiritual solipsist, that is, a fanatical ideologue—and that is not so). In these cases, such feelings do not reflect a valid moral evaluation.

Conclusion: A Note on Emotion and Morality

I have already clarified this in the past, so I will do so here briefly. The distinction I proposed does not overlap with the distinction between action out of emotion (a loving saint) and action out of intellect (a rational saint). I am speaking about people whose morality is Kantian, that is, who act out of evaluative decision and not merely out of natural emotion (though of course there is no obstacle to their also having natural emotions that move them to benefit others). Still, the values and duties by which they conduct themselves should be directed toward people and not focus only on ideas and ideologies. Thus, for example, giving charity should be done in such a way that we see before our eyes a flesh-and-blood human being and not only an idea and value of helping the weak. But this does not mean that what moves me is emotion toward the person, but rather decision and response to the moral command. This is the sense of duty (and not emotion), but it is directed toward human beings and not only toward ideas.

[1] For a systematic analysis of the phenomenon, see the series of columns 178184, and especially Column 180, on Popper and Platonism.

[2] Mentioned in Column 238, note 4.

[3] For those interested in a concise summary, see here.

[4] These two are not necessarily equivalent definitions, and this is not the place to elaborate.

[5] See Column 139 (and also 231) on Gauguin's dilemma.

[6] See Column 122 regarding consequentialist explanations of morality.

[7] Compare the explanation I proposed in Column 153 for the Talmudic dispute over why saving a life overrides the Sabbath.

[8] See an overview here.

[9] This does not necessarily contradict the claim I have repeated here several times, that Talmudic study is not merely a means to observance of the commandments. Study reaches its culmination in fulfilling what one studies. Not that study is a means to observance, but that study that leads to action is the most complete study. Put differently, action is the completion of study.

[10] Compare my claim in the article in the book The Rabbi and in Column 139.

[11] To the extent that moral values can exist at all in an atheist world. In my opinion this is impossible (see on this in part 3 of the fourth notebook).

[12] See Ein Aya, Berakhot ch. 1 – 73, 165 ; ch. 3 – 36 ; ch. 5 – 86 ; ch. 6 – 24 ; Shabbat ch. 5 – 82 ; ch. 6 – 32. The source of these remarks is in Maimonides' Eight Chapters in chapter six.

[13] In this context it is worth seeing the analysis of Taoism versus Kantian morality in Raymond Smullyan's book, The Tao Is Silent, especially the amusing dialogue between man and God brought there. See on this also at the beginning of the third chapter of my book Sciences of Freedom.

[14] This seemingly does not fit with Maimonides' conclusion in the sixth chapter of his Eight Chapters, and this is not the place.

Discussion

Shai Silberstein (2019-09-23)

Hello Rabbi Michi,
You wrote:
"From this one may perhaps understand why self-realization is no less important, and perhaps more important, than moral activity. Ultimately, moral activity is meant to create a healthy and well-ordered society and functioning people. But people and society are meant to achieve some further goal, such as knowledge, understanding, creativity, intellectual depth, and the like; therefore it is unreasonable to engage only in morality while neglecting the goal for whose sake it is intended."

What leads you to say that self-realization is a value?
It seems to me to belong more to the realm of needs than to the realm of values. At least that is how I was educated from childhood.

Michi (2019-09-23)

It is difficult, and perhaps impossible, to ground values—that is, to base them on some principle outside themselves. But here I offered some kind of argument by way of explanation. I said that it is unreasonable to think that the purpose of our creation is morality, since morality merely enables us and society in general to function properly. But why do we need people and society themselves? What is proper functioning for? What is their non-instrumental purpose? At the very least, it is reasonable to say that there is one. Morality is like food and breathing, an infrastructure for human and social activity. But that activity itself must have an intrinsic goal. Spiritual and intellectual perfection is a plausible candidate for that perfection, as Maimonides also writes at the end of the Guide of the Perplexed. We were given such capacities, and it is reasonable that we are meant to make use of them. I think that most people have the intuition that a profound and educated person is more complete than an ignorant, shallow, simplistic one. Since this serves nothing directly, it does not look like a need but rather like a value (although no sanction accompanies it, that is, against one who does not fulfill it). Precisely the fact that it is not useful indicates that this is an intrinsic value (as distinct from morality).

Chayota (2019-09-23)

R. Simcha Bunim of Peshischa told of a Jew he met, who denied his own mouth in order to send his son to study. “I myself will never become great in Torah,” he said, “but my son! For him I toil—he will become great in Torah!” And then his son says the same thing about his own son, and his son’s son, and so on. But where, the Rebbe of Peshischa asked—where is this son for whom everyone is working so hard?
The example of parenthood is a good one, because parenthood highlights the dilemma between devotion to myself and devotion to my descendants. And if I may say so, with women this stands out all the more, because society (and the Torah?) expects them more than men to devote their lives to raising children. I once wrote an article on the issue of “he takes precedence over his son” (and “she over her daughter”), in which among other things I analyzed the sugya of “he takes precedence over his son” in Kiddushin, and the aggadah attached to it about the demon of the study hall that attacked R. Acha bar Yaakov (who was sharper than his son and therefore went to study in his place with Rava). Rava instructed his students not to invite R. Acha as a houseguest, in order to force him to sleep in the study hall and confront the demon. I argued that this dangerous demon expresses a tension between home (fatherhood, parenthood) and the beit midrash (Torah and sharpened study). On the one hand, it reflects the difficulty of giving up the son for the sake of your own Torah study; on the other hand, it reflects the wondrous value of that very act. If one wants to defeat the demon of ignorance, there is no escape from creating this prioritization. And as stated, for women this is harder still, but this is not the place to elaborate. [By the way, this is another wonderful example of aggadah attached to halakhah and balancing it by illustrating nuances absent from the halakhic law.]
A well-known classic story (perhaps still taught for matriculation exams) is Balzac’s novel Father Goriot. Father Goriot turned himself into a floor-rag, a perfect doormat, by devoting all his life and wealth to the benefit of his daughters, who of course despised him and showed him no respect at all. A kind of Christian self-sacrifice. Such saints, who have nothing at all of their own. It seems to me that the daughters’ contempt for their father is not only the result of bad character and ingratitude, but of his very being a doormat. A parent who does not develop his own capacities, who “has no life” in our language, is a bad example for his children. An anti-educational model, which explains why the example of the saint who sacrifices himself utterly may actually be harmful. After all, standing before him is a human being—and what is that person supposed to learn from him?!

Nadav (2019-09-23)

Hello Rabbi! I’ll surprise you and say that I would דווקא prefer the first moral saint, the one who naturally loves. And I’ll explain:
In response to the Rabbi’s claim that he did not choose this and therefore it is not a virtue, I would answer: that does not necessarily follow. It may be that through years of effort he refined his character traits until he subdued them under his control, and therefore he does deserve credit.
I would add that I also want to accept the view of the author of the article, and for the same reason I presented: after all, a moral person who frustrates himself and his aspirations will necessarily not be happy or whole in his giving, and from here the conclusion is that the whole person is tested by his true and sincere giving to others—which will always be preceded by his giving to himself. This explanation seems good to me because it also explains why the Holy One, blessed be He, created us this way: both with a desire to give and with a desire to perfect ourselves.

Michi (2019-09-23)

Well said.
It seems to me that it’s Simcha Bunim, without Meir.

Michi (2019-09-23)

If he worked on his character traits, then he is certainly righteous. But not because his traits are now refined; rather because of the effort he invested in reaching that state.
The second claim is only technical. You are arguing that a rational saint will not manage to be a saint. But the discussion is theoretical: assuming there is such a rational saint and he is indeed a perfect moral saint, is there anything flawed about him?

Nadav (2019-09-23)

With all due respect, I did not understand when the discussion became theoretical. The question was why we (in reality) like the saint who does not take care of himself less, wasn’t it?

Michi (2019-09-23)

No. The question is a principled theoretical one: why is our attitude toward the figure of a moral saint not maximal? Therefore, in my view, concerns that perhaps he will not meet the standards are not really interesting in our context. In any case, I did address this.

Peshita (2019-09-23)

The idea that a person devotes himself to the benefit of another contains a contradiction within it. From this contradiction one can understand that we are dealing with mental illness, not with anything that should be seen as an exalted value or anything similar worthy of admiration.

The contradiction is simple. If a person thinks that the best thing he has in life is to benefit another, it follows that this person should also think that the best thing the other person could do is benefit someone else. And among those others is himself. In other words, from the assumption that the best thing is to benefit another, it follows that the best thing is to benefit himself and not the other. A contradiction.

Diego (2019-09-23)

Hello Rabbi,
It is not clear why the Rabbi brings Maimonides to support the article writer’s claim:
"From this one may perhaps understand why self-realization is no less important, and perhaps more important, than moral activity.
… Maimonides writes something like this in the final chapter of the Guide of the Perplexed, where he describes four perfections and ranks them:
…(Guide of the Perplexed III:54)…
He explains that morality and the repair of society—that is, the set of obligations toward one’s fellow—are means for acquiring wisdom, and therefore the final goal for which everything is intended is intellectual-spiritual perfection, the acquisition of wisdom; and this a person acquires by himself and for himself. Society is a means for the individual person to attain his goal, and for this the world was created; therefore morality and the virtues, whose purpose is the repair of society, are means to the greater goal: self-realization and intellectual-spiritual perfection."

It is difficult to reach that conclusion, because chapter 54 of the Guide goes on to explain the verse from Jeremiah 9:22-23:

"And since we have mentioned this verse and the marvelous notions included in it, and have mentioned the sayings of the Sages, may their memory be blessed, concerning it, we shall complete what is included in it. It is this: this verse does not suffice with explaining that the noblest of ends is only the apprehension of Him, may He be exalted. For if this were its intention, it would have said: ‘But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me,’ and would have stopped there…
And it informed us in this verse that those actions which one must know and in which one must imitate Him are lovingkindness, justice, and righteousness. It added another important point, namely His saying: ‘in the earth.’
It thus becomes clear that the end stated in this verse is that it has explained that man’s perfection, in which he can truly glory, is to attain apprehension of Him, may He be exalted, to the extent of one’s capacity, and to know His providence over His creatures in bringing them into being and governing them as it is, and after that apprehension, the ways of that person should always aim at lovingkindness, righteousness, and justice, in imitation of His actions, may He be exalted, in the manner we have explained several times in this Treatise."

Surely it seems from here the opposite: that in the end moral activity is more important than some sort of self-realization.
Thank you

Michi (2019-09-23)

There is a simple logical error in what you say. You assume that the value is consequentialist (improving the other person’s situation). That itself is a non-Kantian assumption and in my view unfounded. By contrast, according to Kantian ethics, the value lies in the very act of assistance, not in improving the condition of the one assisted (that is, not in the consequentialist consideration), and accordingly there is no contradiction at all. So your bread has fallen into the pit. For me, the value is helping another, and from his perspective the value is helping me.

Michi (2019-09-23)

Not at all. At most, the self-realization is the completion of the learning, and the totality is the supreme value. Like Torah study, which is realized in the fulfillment of the commandments, and the value lies in the whole chain (see my comment about Meiri). But Maimonides is only an illustration here, not an authoritative source, so the argument about his intention is not really important.

Peshita (2019-09-23)

I assume we are speaking about a person who presents himself as rational and claims that the noblest act is helping another. And I showed that this leads to a contradiction. That indicates that someone who thinks such a thought about the noblest act is not a rational person but mentally ill.

I assumed the bare minimum. I ignored Kant entirely, or anyone else for that matter.

(And regardless of what I said, if "the value lies in the very act of assistance," then the value is consequentialist, since every act is a result.)

Peshita (2019-09-23)

If it was not clear: what follows from what I said is that there are not two kinds of moral saint. There is no such thing as “the rational saint.” There is only “the loving saint.” A kind of mental illness. But that is how he is built, so he has no choice.

Shai Silberstein (2019-09-23)

Rabbi Michi,
Is it possible to see human happiness as man’s intrinsic end?
If you say that morality is a means to another goal and not an end in itself, then is the purpose of creation the actualization of human excellences, such as happiness, courage, and beauty?

Peshita (2019-09-23)

Your mistake is that you identify resembling God through lovingkindness, justice, and righteousness with moral activity, while ignoring the prerequisite needed in order to reach that state: "to know His providence over His creatures in bringing them into being and governing them as it is." As long as you do not know how it is, you cannot say anything about the type of content.

Shlomi (2019-09-24)

See Rabbi Sherki’s article
https://www.sherki.co.il/2014/02/28/blog-post_6-2/

Michi (2019-09-24)

“Is not My word like fire?”—declares the Lord. I have already explained that you are mistaken, and I do not see why repeating it again would change anything.

Michi (2019-09-24)

When I spoke of self-realization, I did not mean happiness, nor beauty. I meant personal and intellectual completion. The former are not values, although of course there is nothing wrong with them.

Michi (2019-09-24)

I disagree. As I wrote, I do not see giving as an end.

Diego (2019-09-24)

Even if Maimonides is brought as an illustration and not as an authoritative source, I am not sure that his intention is not really important to the issue under discussion.
In the introduction to the Mishnah, chapter 17, Maimonides writes:
"Know that the ancients conducted a profound inquiry, to the extent of the wisdom and sound thought granted them, until it was established for them that every existing thing must necessarily have an end for the sake of which it exists"….
"Therefore, when the Holy One, blessed be He, gave Solomon of the wisdom what He promised him, he knew of the secrets of the creation of these species as much as it is possible for a human being to know insofar as he is human."…
"But generally speaking, one must know that all beings beneath the sphere of the moon exist for the sake of man alone."…
"And when they found that the end of all these matters is the existence of man, we had to inquire likewise why man exists and what was intended by his creation."…
"But man performs many actions, differing from one another, and they examined every one of his actions in order to know, from among these actions, the end of his creation, and they found that his end is only one action, and for its sake he was created, while his other actions are to sustain his existence so that he may be perfected through it"…
"That one action, that action, is to form in his soul the intelligible secrets and to know the truths as they are, for reason tells us that it is vain and false for man’s end to be eating and drinking and intercourse, or to build a wall, for all these are passing accidents that befall him and do not add to his inner power; moreover, in these he shares with most other creatures."…
"And the noblest among the intelligibles is for one to form in his soul the unity of the Holy One, blessed be He, and all that follows from that matter among divine things, while the other sciences are only to train one in them until one reaches divine knowledge; and speech on this matter to its completion would be very lengthy."…

And after all these explanations about the noblest among the intelligibles, Maimonides concludes:
"Then he returns as though he were a severed creature floating in the sea of prime matter; and ‘sea of prime matter’ means chaos. And it has become clear from these premises that the end of the world and of all that is in it is a wise and good man!!"
A wise man—this is clear from the whole introduction about the one act for whose sake he was created; that is surely the “self-realization.”
But why does Maimonides add and crown man’s end with: and good!! (~ moral activity)

Holiness and 'Morality' Complement One Another (2019-09-24)

With God’s help, 24 Elul 5779

What practical difference does it make where a person’s awakening to do good comes from? Some are motivated morally, some intellectually, and some are moved toward good by the feeling of brotherhood or compassion implanted in man.

A human being is a complex personality. He has a moral sense, a striving for truth and understanding, and social aspirations. The best situation is when doing what is good and upright accords with all the layers of a person’s personality, and when a person finds satisfaction for all sides of his personality—he does good “with joy and gladness of heart.”

With blessings, Shatz

Peshita (2019-09-24)

The Rabbi holds a theory of values that ignores reasons. In such a state of affairs, you are right and I am wrong, because there is no contradiction in each person deciding that the goal is helping the other.

The point is that there are reasons for things. If a person made a bet with a friend, or a punishment was imposed on him to help others, that is a possible situation in which a person would be obligated to help another. (As was the case in labor camps…)

But here you spoke about a case in which a person decides that helping another matters more than helping himself. And such a situation leads to contradiction, because then he will have to teach the other that the most important thing is to help him himself. And then the other will help him help him… and in fact they will do nothing except sit and help each other help each other. And that is an absurd situation.

Michi (2019-09-24)

Again, there is no contradiction here whatsoever. He places the other at the center, and that does not mean he must teach the other to act that way. Beyond that, even if he teaches the other to place the other at the center, that “other” is not necessarily him (there are many other others). And even if he teaches the other that he must place him himself at the center, that too is no contradiction, because indeed each person should help another, and there is mutual regard here, which also is not at all contradictory.
In short, even if you stand on your head, you will not manage to produce here even a shred of contradiction.

Peshita (2019-09-24)

There is a contradictory, incoherent situation here.

The self is also an “other” for someone else. That is, there is no principled difference between my body and someone else’s body.

Therefore,
to say that the supreme goal is to help someone else, and at the same time to say that there is no importance in helping myself, contains a contradiction.

The illustration of this in the absurd situation where the help would amount to each person teaching the other how important it is to help the other, so that they would chatter to each other endlessly—that is only an example of where this absurd situation leads.

A person who thinks such a thought usually does not suffer from inferiority, but on the contrary: he thinks that he is not counted as an other. He feels superior to others, and therefore thinks there is special importance in helping them, while he himself does not need help.

Holiness—Blessing, Bond, and Connection (2019-09-24)

With God’s help, 25 Elul 5779

We find in the Torah that holiness applies in time on the Sabbath day: “And the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and sanctified it”; holiness is bound up with blessing. Holiness in place is first mentioned at God’s revelation to Moses, where he is told: “Remove your shoes from your feet, for the place upon which you stand is holy ground.” A holy place is a place where God meets man and forms a bond with him.

Holiness in man is mentioned regarding the people, the people of Israel, chosen to be “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” People who connect to the nation through unity and mutual responsibility are fit to be the link between God and humanity, to be the priests who bring the word of God to all humanity and bless it with love.

Holiness, then, is the creation of bond and connection between the Creator and His creatures: holiness in time—on the Sabbath and festivals; holiness in place—the Land of Israel and the Temple; holiness in man—the people of Israel; and holiness in thought—the Torah.

The appearance of holiness is bound up with the joining together of its bearers to be “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” And perhaps for that reason holiness in the words of the prophets was uniquely associated with Jacob, as it is written, “and they shall sanctify the Holy One of Jacob,” for Jacob was the first who succeeded in creating an extended family—12 sons, 70 grandchildren and great-grandchildren beyond number—all of whom “remained inside” and continued to call in the name of the Lord, the foundation of the holy nation.

Likewise, betrothal between husband and wife is a covenant that joins together. The two spouses who unite in love merit that the Divine Presence dwell between them, and they pass on the love, mutual appreciation, and shared ideals to the next generation and generations to come, integrating rationality, morality, and love in actual practice.

With blessings, Shatz

The 'Rational' Preserves the Balance Between the 'Loving' and the 'Moral' (2019-09-25)

With God’s help, 25 Elul 5779

And one may say that rational value-judgment brings balance between the “loving” and the “moral,” for the loving person wishes to do good to everyone, whereas the “moral” person, committed to justice, will do good only to one who deserves it.

In between will stand the balancing decision of the “rational” one, which will give place to both aspirations—to lovingkindness and to justice. The “objective rational” person is one who “engages in Torah for its own sake”—he will love and gladden even the “creatures” who are still far from Torah, and through his love he will draw them near to Torah and bring them to the desired state in which they receive the good by full right. From the standpoint of the present, this is “lovingkindness,” but from the standpoint of the future, this is “justice.”

Thus the “Godly will” combines the virtue of the “loving” person with the virtue of the “moral” one!

With blessings, Shatz

Correction (2019-09-25)

In paragraph 2, line 2
… he is one who “engages in Torah for its own sake”…

David Wietchner (2019-09-25)

The criticism you mentioned briefly, according to which the writer may be conflating intuitions with values, is in my opinion not true only of her, but of very large parts of ethical discussion in analytic philosophy, and not by accident. A large portion of these discussions is conducted without commitment to any objective system of values or to any metaphysical picture whatsoever, and therefore our moral intuitions not only prompt us to think, but in fact constitute the only source from which one can prove anything about morality.

Michi (2019-09-25)

I completely agree.

Why Is the 'Moral Saint' So Annoying? (2019-09-25)

It seems that the “moral saint” annoys everyone because he sees his energetic conduct not as “beyond the letter of the law” but as a “categorical imperative” binding on everyone, and thereby essentially arouses “feelings of guilt” in anyone who is not on that “level.”

Against such pietists, Ramchal wrote in the chapter on “the measure of piety” that the pious person should not exalt himself over others who are not at his level, but on the contrary, should judge them favorably. And in spoken “RMDA” language: “not to be a spiritual solipsist” 🙂

With blessings, Soli Psist

Source Citation (for Ramchal’s words in paragraph 2) (2019-09-25)

On the duty of the pious person to judge his generation favorably, Ramchal writes (Mesillat Yesharim, chapter 19):
‘However, there is yet another fundamental principle in the intention of piety, namely: the good of the generation… for it is the will of the Omnipresent that the pious of Israel should bring merit and atonement to the other levels… and this he must do in the intention of his worship and also in his prayer—that is, he should pray for his generation, to atone for those who need atonement, to bring back in repentance those who need it, and to plead in defense of the whole generation…’

On caution against arrogance, Ramchal writes there, in chapter 20:
‘But there are certain additions of piety which, if a person were to do them before the masses, they would laugh at him and mock him, and would thus be found sinning and punished because of him… in such a matter it is certainly more fitting for the pious person to refrain from doing it than to do it. This is what Scripture says: “and walk humbly with your God.” And many great pious people abandoned their customs of piety when among the masses because it looked like arrogance…’

Moshe (2019-09-25)

If you examine things carefully, you will find that Moses our teacher also turned into a kind of doormat (in your eyes) for the needs of the children of Israel.

Chayota (2019-09-25)

I do not know whether you have read Father Goriot, because I cannot understand how you found any connection between him and Moses our teacher. Moses fought when he needed to fight, struggled when there was a need to struggle, whether with the Holy One, blessed be He Himself or with the people. That is how a person with personality and with a goal behaves, struggling for an idea and for his truth. Moses our teacher is a person who devoted himself to something he believed in, at the expense of his connection with his family. He separated from his wife and abandoned his children (at least according to Hazal; according to the plain meaning, perhaps not). Father Goriot did the exact opposite: the relationship with his daughters was his entire world, a world devoid of content without that relationship.

Shlomi (2019-09-26)

Rabbi Soloveitchik’s Halakhic Man also suffers from solipsism.

Moshe (2019-10-01)

Father Goriot was not the claim. The claim, as written, is that a person is not supposed to sacrifice his life for others. Devotion to myself or to another—and within that framework Moses chose one side unilaterally.

Chayota (2019-10-01)

Is a soldier in the army who gives his life for others a doormat? Certainly not. A person can devote his life to an idea; it seems to me that this is what Moses our teacher did. It was not (only) altruism, but the passing on of Torah, the word of God, to Israel. I used the word “doormat” about Father Goriot because that is what he was: he had nothing whatsoever of his own. He turned himself into nothing, because there was no balance or ideological negotiation, one involving values or respect for anything, between him and his daughters.

Moshe (2019-10-02)

Second time—“the saint who sacrifices himself utterly” (in your words)—Moses.
Unless you did not really mean what you wrote, but only an extreme example like F.G.

Chayota (2019-10-02)

See Numbers 11:11-15. There is quite good evidence there for the distinction I was trying (apparently without much success) to explain. In other words—it is not called “utterly.” There are limits. There is a kernel of personality there that is not trampled underfoot.

Chinotan – Accepting (2019-10-02)

With God’s help, 4 Tishrei 5779

To Chayota and Moshe—greetings,

A person who devotes his life to the good of his loved ones—his children or his people—has added meaning and flavor in his life in the very fact of that investment. And there is endless “nachat” in raising up the next generation that will continue his mission even “after one hundred and twenty years,” all the more so in the case of Moses our teacher, whose Torah bears fruit and the fruit of fruit in an eternal dimension.

Since building the next generation must also be spiritual, a person is obligated to build for himself a solid spiritual world as well. It is impossible to educate unless the educator has a rich spiritual world, as Rav Tzvi Yehuda instructed his student who went out to work in education: “When the oven is full, it warms its surroundings.”

Thus, devotion to cultivating others necessarily brings about a fuller building of the giver as well, as Hazal said: “From my students more than from all of them.”

With blessings for a good conclusion, Shatz

Moses too judged the people “from morning until evening,” but he reserved the nighttime hours for his personal development, to contemplate and deepen his Torah, so that “he would have something to sell” to those seeking his counsel.

Moshe (2019-10-03)

Those verses floated before my eyes as well, except that my conclusion from them is the opposite.
I think the argument has been exhausted.

Moses’ Devotion to the Public—in the Second Chapter of His Life (2019-10-03)

With God’s help, 5 Tishrei 5779

Aside from what I mentioned in my previous comment—that devotion to cultivating others necessarily involves developing the giver’s own personality, for if not, from where could he give?—it should be noted that Moses’ “public career” began only after he turned eighty, which was the peak of the accepted lifespan in his time, as Moses himself says in his prayer: “The days of our years are seventy years, and if by strength, eighty years” (Psalms 90).

His devotion to the public thus took place in the decades added to him beyond the norm!

With blessings, Shatz

From Moses’ description of the years of old age as “their pride is but labor and sorrow,” it appears that he is frustrated by a life that passes like that of an ordinary person taking care of his own household, without the ability to help his people suffering in Egypt, and he asks: “Gladden us according to the days You afflicted us, the years we saw evil.”

Perhaps in this Moses asks for an extension of his years… for sixty years he suffers in Midian, living an orderly life without the ability to help his suffering people. If God would add to him that same span of time in which he would merit to see the children of Israel redeemed, then he would reach the lifespan of his forefathers, who lived more than 130 years, and his years of joy would equal his years of affliction.

Moses’ prayer was fulfilled only partially—only 40 years were added to his life, and even the redemption he brought to the people was only partial. He brings the people to the edge of the promised land, but did not merit to bring them into it. He is consoled by the fact that he did not remain alone; rather, he remains with the children of Gad, who fight mightily against the enemies of Israel, and whom he blesses: “Blessed is He who enlarges Gad; like a lion he dwells and tears the arm, yea, the crown of the head. And he chose the first part for himself, for there the portion of the lawgiver was reserved; and he came with the heads of the people; he executed the righteousness of the Lord, and His judgments with Israel” (Deuteronomy 33).

That is to say: a routine life of “working for his own household” does not satisfy Moses. His “nachat” lies in a life of action for his people!

BookerDewitt (2019-10-17)

Why is morality a means to repairing human society? Can one not say that the very choice of the moral act is the purpose of creation? From a quick look at the fifth booklet, you address such a possibility but argue that although that could indeed be the purpose of creation, we would have needed revelation to say so, and not that it is the repair of human society. I did not understand why.

Michi (2019-10-18)

I do not see how one can attribute value to an act that has no consequence (benefit to society or to another person) without revelation, or at least some divine source.

The Three Motivations Toward the Good in Moses’ Prayer (2019-10-30)

With God’s help, 2 Cheshvan 5780

At the end of Psalm 90, Moses mentions the three motivations toward the good: “And let the pleasantness of the Lord our God be upon us”—the feeling of pleasantness in doing good (the feeling of the “loving” one); “and establish upon us the work of our hands”—the contribution of the good deed to building the person’s own wholeness (the feeling of the “rational” one); “and establish the work of our hands”—the intrinsic value of the good deed for the whole world (the feeling of the “moral” one).

On the importance not only of achieving the goal of one’s “life project,” but of the significance of every day on which one acts in the right direction, Moses stands (according to Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch) when he says, “Teach us to number our days, that we may bring a heart of wisdom”—that God should place in our hearts the ability to count each passing day, מתוך understanding that each and every day has its own unique value, and then “we may bring a heart of wisdom,” not to let even one day slip away, but to use it as fully as possible.

With blessings, Shatz..

Zehava Fisher (2025-01-21)

Recently I happened to read Wolf’s article. I think its problematic nature stems from the fact that she defines morality from the outset on shaky foundations. Her saint increases the good in the world. That is to say, he engages in “positive commandments only”—that is, he adds good. But morality is inherently built on two legs: on positive commandments, as she notes, but also on “negative commandments”—do not murder, do not steal, etc.—which in a general way we can define as preventing evil in the world. Since she has only the side of “a lot of good in the world,” she can smuggle in there values she calls a-moral, that is, morally neutral, but still things that truly add good—certainly to the person himself, who acquires knowledge in various fields, but also to the world as a whole. One can say that a person who spends all day doing good and acts of kindness etc. certainly does not have the time needed to do evil. But in any case, a dilemma can arise in which the good you do for one person harms another. Yet from Wolf’s perspective there is no prohibition at all against harming someone. I think this is an outrageous article that merely displays the pampered and fancy life of the author. When I spoke with a friend about my view, he answered that he too was struck by the fact that she presents the use of sarcasm as a kind of value in life. I agree that a pinch of sarcasm once in a generation can add a little spice to life, but to present it as a positive value? That is only one example of the strange conclusions one can draw from her method. Another friend argued that according to her approach, pleasure is the supreme value. Can you imagine?! I asked him: and what would you answer someone who finds pleasure in murdering human beings? In my opinion, everything stems from the shaky foundation of the method.

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