I’m curious: is your hope that the government will fall a responsible one? Maybe the lesser evil is that there at least be a government and that we not go to elections every other day? After all, even if the other side wins, half the nation will want it to fall immediately. Is it responsible to hope for that? Maybe it’s better to let whoever was elected do the job for the four years they were given (even if it’s far from perfect)?

The horrors this government has brought down on us are not worth tolerating for even one more moment. The desire not to change things and the fear of chaos are entrenching the catastrophic situation we’re in.

The Rabbi is right: the previous government (or the next one according to the polls) would have been preferable, where we also would have suffered the disaster and then surrendered to Hamas’s demands two days later, with all that that implies.

There’s a high chance that 10/7 wouldn’t have happened, so there wouldn’t have been anyone to surrender to.
It’s obvious that 10/7 was also caused by the state the country was in, the internal rift, and the situation on the various fronts because of that. Beyond that, it may simply be that it would have been prevented because the attention to what was happening there would have been greater. Just as Lapid, Liberman, and Gotliv were talking about the situation in Gaza literally just a few weeks before the massacre…

It’s also possible the war would have ended much earlier with a governing alternative to Hamas and wouldn’t have dragged on forever.

L,
Presumably we agree about the coalition.
But it’s ridiculous and foolish to claim that there was a “high chance” that 10/7 would not have happened.
And your wishful thinking about the war ending is also baseless, detached, and strange. What governing alternative is Lapid really hiding up his sleeve? Let him share it with us; this is a time for team play.

Lapid isn’t hiding anything: the Palestinian Authority. Bibi has a problem in that he’s incapable of even saying “the Authority” because of coalition considerations (and so he’s dragging the war out forever).
Ridiculous in your opinion; in my opinion, not ridiculous at all. Our resilience was different, and the attention to security problems was different. This is a horrific government that was busy dividing the people and not really focused on security and the economy.

As for the Authority, now I understand what you mean. We simply disagree about that. In my view, bringing Gaza under the Authority is the same as bringing Gaza under the government of Namibia. The whole is not greater than the sum of its parts—Gaza is Gaza; you can’t just change the title of the regime and call it a day. By “governing alternative” I thought you meant something that would actually work.

As for 10/7, I admit you’re right. Maybe there wouldn’t have been a 10/7; maybe it would have been 11/8 or whatever.
Politics is blinding you in a way that’s almost laughable. It’s completely detached from reality. I don’t even know where to begin attacking the claim. Should I start with blaming the IDF for the overwhelming majority of the failure? Mention Hamas’s success in keeping the attack secret? (The signs and warnings people are talking about now are hindsight wisdom.) Point out the hours at which the prime minister first received updates? Talk about our lack of knowledge regarding how Lapid or Gantz would potentially have acted if they had been in power? Note that Hamas planned the attack in deepest secrecy for many years, and the division you mentioned was at most a trigger? (Even about it being a trigger I have serious doubts. Beyond morale-boosting declarations, it doesn’t seem Hamas was really affected by that in terms of timing. There was a lot of symbolism and strategy in the timing.) I could go on and on. It’s detached on an extreme level.

I agree this is a horrific coalition. But I keep seeing extreme claims that ruin the real criticism. It’s just a shame. Bibists hear you and cluck about the “leftists” who are blinded by hatred.