Ontic and Epistemic Doubt B: Halakhic Aspects (Column 323)
Ordinary halakhic doubt is missing information about a fixed reality
The column opens with the familiar examples of halakhic doubt: a piece of meat whose status is unknown, meat found in a city where one follows the majority, someone who betrothed one of five women and forgot which one, or someone who robbed one of five people and does not know whom. In all these cases there is one definite fact in the world: one piece is forbidden, one specific woman is betrothed, one specific person was robbed; only the human being lacks information. This is epistemic doubt, so the ordinary rules for deciding doubts apply.
Abaye and Rava disagree when the man never specified which sister was betrothed
From there the column moves to a different case: a man gives money to the father of two daughters and says that he is betrothing one of them, without defining which one. Since they are sisters, each becomes for him the sister of his wife, so the kiddushin are not given over to intercourse. Abaye holds that the kiddushin take effect, except that both women require a get; Rava holds that such kiddushin do not take effect at all. Both agree that the situation is not given over to intercourse, and they disagree only about whether such a defect blocks the very effect of kiddushin; halakha follows Abaye here.
According to Tosafot and the Rashba, the problem is that the kiddushin themselves prohibit instead of permit
The column pauses to clarify what kiddushin not given over to intercourse means. A simple reading of Rashi suggests that kiddushin must be fit for intercourse, but that wording is difficult in two directions: Abaye certainly does not allow kiddushin with those forbidden by karet, and Rava certainly agrees that kiddushin do take effect with those forbidden only by a lav. Tosafot and the Rashba therefore explain that the problem is not merely that intercourse cannot be carried out in practice, but that the act of kiddushin itself, instead of opening a path of marital union, creates a prohibition of intercourse. That is why our case is invalid, whereas situations in which some outside barrier blocks intercourse, such as a preexisting prohibition or a niddah chuppah, are not necessarily disqualified for this reason. The column adds that one can read Rashi this way as well, or at least say that he distinguishes between the severity of incest prohibitions and a mere lav.
Majority rules and Maimonides show that this is not just another epistemic doubt
At this point the rabbi begins to challenge the ordinary reading, as if the case were simply ignorance about which sister was betrothed. If this were an ordinary doubt, one could ask why in a broader structure we would not follow the majority, or at least why, according to Maimonides, who holds that being stringent in a Torah-level doubt is only rabbinic, one should not say that biblically intercourse is permitted and the kiddushin are therefore given over to intercourse. The fact that even on his view it is ברור that intercourse with either sister is forbidden shows that the prohibition here does not stem merely from lack of information. Already at this stage it becomes clear that the doubt lies in the legal reality itself.
R. Shimon Shkop: there is real kiddushin without any particular woman being definitively betrothed
To sharpen this, the column adopts the analysis of R. Shimon Shkop, while noting that some disagreed with him. If a man betrothed a particular woman and forgot who she was, one woman is truly betrothed and we simply do not know which one; but if he said מראש that one of them shall be betrothed to me without designating any woman, there is not even in heaven a hidden answer to the question of who the betrothed woman is. The act of kiddushin created a real legal effect, but it did not attach to one single, defined object. Therefore each sister is forbidden to him not because there is a doubt whether she is the sister of his wife, but because each certainly stands within a vague state of being the sister of his tenuously defined wife. This is what the column calls a certain ambiguity rather than an uncertain certainty, and it also explains why nullification by majority does not apply here: there is no forbidden minority swallowed by a permitted majority, because all the possibilities are equal in status.
The halakhic case resembles superposition: a combination of states, not marriage to both sisters together
From here the column returns to the link with physics. The halakhic state is not that both sisters are married to him together, which is impossible, but that the overall state of all three of them is a combination of two classical states: in one, Rachel is his wife and Leah is his wife's sister, and in the other the reverse. In that sense, probability here is not a measure of our ignorance about what has already been decided, but an ontic weight of each constituent state within the superposition. Precisely in the legal world it is easier to see why one may not call this both-and, and that is why the halakhic example sheds new light on the double-slit experiment and the meaning of a quantum state. The column leaves the question of collapse in such a state to the next installment.
In breira, for Rashi, the separation takes effect now without being fixed to any particular two logs
The second example is the sugya of breira in a barrel of wine: a person says on Shabbat that the two logs that will remain after Shabbat will be terumah, and he wants to drink already now. In halakha, for Torah law, one rules that there is no breira, but according to Rashi that does not mean that all the wine remains tevel until after Shabbat; on the contrary, the separation already takes effect now, except that it is not fixed which pair of logs is the terumah. That is why Rabbi Yehuda forbids drinking because one is drinking vague terumah, not merely unseparated tevel. Other Rishonim disagree and understand the wine as tevel, and the practical difference is that according to Rashi a priest could drink this wine.
In breira too there is no majority and minority, but a superposition of possible legal states
The column proposes seeing breira in the same way: every pair of logs stands in the same status, and the barrel's overall state is a combination of many classical states, in each of which a different pair is terumah and the rest is ordinary produce. So again this is not ordinary epistemic doubt, and again it makes no sense to speak about nullification by majority. The case of a get written for whichever of his two wives exits first through the doorway sharpens the same structure even more: there is a present legal act, but the object of its effect is not fixed as a hidden fact and instead remains vague. This is the basis for the next column's discussion of the connection between breira, kiddushin, and quantum collapse.
In the previous column we discussed the conceptual and scientific distinction between epistemic doubt and ontic doubt. Despite the confusion that quantum description arouses in us, it turns out that Talmudic commentators employ precisely this distinction as well. True, they do so in the legal sphere rather than the physical one; yet, as we shall now see, it is very easy to understand and clarify this confusing distinction in the legal domain. In this column I will illustrate it in two halakhic contexts—“bereira” (retroactive clarification) and kiddushin that are not amenable to consummation. In the next column I will discuss the link between these two sugyot and show an interesting implication for the phenomenon of quantum collapse, as treated in the previous column, within halakha.
Epistemic Doubt in Halakha
Halakha often deals with situations of doubt. For example, a case in which two pieces of meat are before me—one pork and one kosher—and I must decide whether to eat one of them, and if so, which. This is a state of doubt, and we resolve it according to the rules for resolving doubts. Even if I find a piece of meat lying on the sidewalk in the city center and I am unsure whether it is kosher or not, we may use indications to help resolve the doubt. If a survey shows that most butcher shops in the city sell kosher meat, then strictly speaking it is permitted to eat the meat I found. This is an example of the rule for deciding doubts (following the majority).
The Mishnah (Yevamot 118b) presents another case of doubt:
“[If one] betrothed one of five women and does not know which one he betrothed, and each says: ‘He betrothed me’—[according to Rabbi Tarfon] he gives a bill of divorce to one and leaves [the marriage settlement] between them and withdraws; Rabbi Akiva says: This is not a way to remove oneself from transgression—he must give a bill of divorce and a ketubah to each and every one.”
“[Similarly, if one] robbed one of five [people] and does not know from whom he robbed, and each says: ‘He robbed me’—[according to Rabbi Tarfon] he may place the stolen item between them and withdraw; Rabbi Akiva says: This is not a way to remove oneself from transgression—he must pay each and every one.”
A similar situation can arise when a man betroths a particular woman but forgets which of the five it was. Or when a person sends a messenger to betroth a wife for his son from a particular town (for example, as Abraham’s servant Eliezer was sent to find a wife for Isaac in Haran), and the messenger betroths someone and dies, and the woman’s father who received the kiddushin also dies; neither the groom nor anyone else knows who the betrothed is. In such a case all the women are considered, out of doubt, to be his wives; he is forbidden to marry the sister of any of them, and all of them require a get in order to marry someone else. This is a state of doubt to which the regular rules of doubt apply.
“Kiddushin Not Amenable to Consummation”: A Dispute of the Amoraim
By contrast, the sugya (Kiddushin 51a–b) discusses “kiddushin that are not amenable to consummation” (kiddushin not amenable to consummation). Consider a case where a father of two daughters gives money to a man to betroth one of them to him without specifying which. Note the difference from the previous cases: here we are dealing with sisters, not just any two women. The problem that arises is that if Rachel is the one betrothed to me, then Leah is my wife’s sister and it is forbidden for me to have relations with her; and if Leah is the one betrothed to me, then Rachel is my wife’s sister and relations with her are forbidden. In short, after performing this foolish act, I find myself unable to cohabit with either of them, since each is potentially my wife’s sister. This is the situation termed in halakha “kiddushin not amenable to consummation.”
What is the status of such kiddushin? Abaye and Rava dispute this:
“It was stated: Kiddushin that are not amenable to consummation—Abaye said: they are kiddushin; Rava said: they are not kiddushin. Rava said (as explained by Bar Ahina): ‘When a man takes a wife and comes to her’ (Deut. 24:1)—kiddushin that are amenable to cohabitation are kiddushin; kiddushin that are not amenable to cohabitation are not kiddushin.”
According to Abaye, the kiddushin take effect, and both women require a get; the groom is prohibited to both because with respect to each there is a doubt of karet-level prohibition as the sister of his (possibly) married wife. Nevertheless, Abaye holds this does not prevent the kiddushin from taking effect. The status, for Abaye, resembles the earlier case of one who betroths one of five women and forgets which—there is a doubt, and we act stringently. Rava, however, rules that such betrothal does not take effect at all, because such kiddushin are not amenable to consummation. Both agree on the factual point that the kiddushin are not amenable to consummation; they disagree only whether this prevents the kiddushin from taking effect. Notably, this is one of the six Ya’al Kegam cases in which the halakha follows Abaye (the letter kuf represents this sugya).
What Are “Kiddushin Not Amenable to Consummation”?
Before continuing, let us clarify the concept itself. At first glance, it means kiddushin that cannot be realized through physical relations. This, in fact, is how Rashi seems to understand it, learning from the verse “When a man takes a wife and comes to her” that kiddushin must be fit for cohabitation. If so, it is not clear why Kiddushin do not take effect with those liable to karet (e.g., one who attempts to betroth his sister or mother): according to Abaye, couldn’t kiddushin still take effect even if cohabitation is forbidden? Indeed the very sugya indicates that if one betroths Rachel and then Leah, Leah is not betrothed because she is his wife’s sister—showing that kiddushin do not take effect where there is karet. The dispute concerns only the case where he betroths “one of the two” unspecified.
Tosafot (ad loc., s.v. “kiddushin she’einan mesurin lebi’ah”) present the opposite question on Rashi. With those liable to a mere negative prohibition (lav)—e.g., a priest and a divorcée—the Tannaim dispute, and the halakha rules that kiddushin do take effect. If “amenable to cohabitation” were a physical possibility requirement, why would kiddushin take effect there, since cohabitation is forbidden? Tosafot therefore explain that the problem is not the physical impossibility of relations but the legal result generated by the act of kiddushin: in the sisters case, the kiddushin themselves produce an interdiction that blocks cohabitation for both, turning an act whose function is to permit a woman to her husband into one that prohibits her to him. Where the prohibition pre-existed independent of the act (e.g., lavim), the kiddushin can still take effect. The Rashba (Kiddushin 51a) similarly writes that “kiddushin not amenable to consummation are not kiddushin—specifically where the kiddushin complete (generate) the prohibition; but for those subject to lavin and positive prohibitions, although not amenable to consummation, they are kiddushin.”
In other words, the issue is not that the kiddushin cannot in practice be realized, but that the act of kiddushin yielded an outcome opposite to its telos: instead of opening a path to marital relations, it closes it. Where the blockage is independent of the act, the kiddushin can take effect.
Is This Doubt Epistemic or Ontic?
At first glance, this appears to be an ordinary case of doubt: one of the two sisters is betrothed to him, we simply don’t know which, so we apply the rules of doubt. But this is incorrect. First, in the case of three sisters, why not apply majority to permit him at least two of them? Moreover, the situation can lead to contradictory permissiveness (like the “two paths” paradox): he could “choose” one and live with her, yet both were simultaneously under the same prohibition. This indicates that we are dealing not with epistemic doubt but with ontic doubt—an indeterminacy in reality itself—where the regular rules of doubt do not apply. We will elaborate shortly, but first let us challenge the assumption of ordinary (epistemic) doubt from another direction.
As is well known, the Rishonim disagree whether the rule “a biblical doubt is treated stringently” is itself biblical. The Rambam holds that biblically, a doubt is lenient and the stringency is rabbinic; the Rashba views the stringency as biblical. If so, according to the Rambam, why should our case be “kiddushin not amenable to consummation”? Each woman is but a doubtful sister of his wife, and biblically he could cohabit with each; only rabbinically would he be restrained. Yet even Abaye agrees that one may not cohabit with either, i.e., that the kiddushin are indeed “not amenable to consummation.” This suggests that even the Rambam would agree here that biblically he may not cohabit with either. Why? Because the “doubt” here is of a different nature; the usual rules of doubt do not apply.
R. Shimon Shkop: Sha’arei Yosher (Gate 3, ch. 22)
R. Shimon Shkop articulates this sharply:
In the case of one who betroths one of five women… there is a deep inquiry: in what manner does the status take effect upon one of them? If the betrother did not specify, how can we say that in true reality one particular woman was designated for kiddushin? By what reason would Heaven designate one woman more than the others?
Rather, it seems more correct to say that in such a case—even in true reality—no one woman was designated for kiddushin. In such a case we cannot say “if Elijah comes [he will tell us],” because there is no single, determinate ‘truth’ to reveal. The prohibition here is not like other doubts in the world, where the Torah of doubt is ‘perhaps this is the [prohibited] one in reality’; here the matter is that the status arises due to a cause that generates it.
If a man betroths one specific woman out of the five and then forgets which, that is ordinary (epistemic) doubt: there is a true fact which is unknown to us (God knows which). But when he never specifies, there is no “in heaven” determined wife. This is not a case where there is a single correct answer that we simply do not know; rather, there is no such single answer. The situation is one of indeterminacy in reality—ontic ambiguity.
R. Shkop continues:
The cause of the halakhic status is the act of kiddushin—the giving of money and the declaration. Since he gave money and said: “Let one of these five women be betrothed to me,” such that it is fitting that one of them be in the status of a married woman, therefore each one is prohibited due to the act, not because we are in doubt that she might be the betrothed one more than the others…
That is, the prohibition on each is not born of an evidentiary doubt but from the very act that created this indeterminate status. There is no specific woman to whom the status actually attached; nevertheless, each is prohibited to marry others (and if they are sisters, each is the man’s “attenuated wife,” making the others “sisters of his wife”). In yeshiva parlance this is termed “definite doubt” (definite doubt): we have certainty about the indeterminacy of reality, as opposed to ordinary doubt (doubt about something definite), where reality is determinate but unknown.
Hence, as R. Shkop notes, there is no concept of bitul berov (nullification by majority) here: nullification applies when a distinct minority element is mixed into a majority. Here all elements are identically situated; there is no minority to nullify. Consequently, the usual majority rules do not apply.
The Connection to Quantum Theory
As we noted in the previous column, quantum cases feature ambiguity (ontic uncertainty), not epistemic doubt. It is striking that R. Shkop, who wrote before quantum mechanics, nevertheless arrived at a similar distinction in the legal realm—perhaps a zeitgeist of sorts. In fact, the legal analogy helps strip some of the mystique from quantum theory.
The case of kiddushin not amenable to consummation is identical to the two-slit experiment described previously. There we said the particle passes “through both slits,” by which we meant that its state is a superposition of the two classical alternatives. We represented this schematically as:
|ψ⟩ = α·|A⟩ + β·|B⟩
For our purposes, |A⟩ is the state in which Rachel is my wife and Leah is my wife’s sister; |B⟩ is the state in which Leah is my wife and Rachel is my wife’s sister. The post-kiddushin situation is the superposition of these two classical marital-status states. It is not that I am married to both sisters (even “attenuatedly”); that is impossible. Rather, the overall state is a sum of two classical states, each of which is perfectly determinate by itself. It is therefore more accurate to say that, with probability weights given by α and β, I am in one state or the other—not that both women are simultaneously my wives.
As in quantum mechanics, the coefficients α and β do double duty: they describe how the overall state is composed, and they determine the probabilities of measurement outcomes (collapse). If we could “measure” which woman is actually the wife, those coefficients would fix the probability of each outcome. In our legal case they are equal, producing an even (symmetric) ontic ambiguity.
The Sugya of Bereira (“Retroactive Clarification”)
There is a family of Talmudic sugyot that pivot on bereira. A classic example (Gittin 25a; Hullin 14a) concerns separating teruma from wine purchased from the Cutheans. A person buys a barrel of 100 log of wine from which no tithes have been separated, wishes to drink now (e.g., on Shabbat, when separating is forbidden), and declares: “The two log that I will set aside are teruma; ten are ma’aser rishon; nine are ma’aser sheni”—and then he drinks immediately. The Tannaim dispute whether this is permitted: according to the view that “there is bereira,” the later designation clarifies the earlier status; according to the view that “there is no bereira,” this does not work. The halakha, for biblical law, follows that there is no bereira.
How is the status defined according to the view that there is no bereira? One might think the entire barrel remains untithed (tevel) until motza’ei Shabbat. Yet Rashi explains the prohibiting view differently: “He forbids [drinking], lest he have drunk teruma.” This implies that some halakhic “name” of teruma already rests, in a certain way, upon the wine now; we simply do not know which two log will eventually be designated. According to Rashi and those who follow him, the prohibition is not “pure tevel” but an ontic doubt—there is a thin layer of teruma-status spread over every potential two-log pairing in the mixture. This also explains why there is no nullification by majority: just as in the sisters case, there is no distinct minority element to be nullified; every pair is equally “eligible,” so usual majority logic does not apply.
Formally, the overall state can be described (for those who like symbols) as a superposition of many classical states:
|Ψ⟩ = Σi=1n αi · |i⟩
where each |i⟩ represents a specific pair of log designated as teruma and all the rest as chullin. In our case the coefficients are (conceptually) symmetric. The halakhic upshot is that, at least according to Rashi, the designation already “works” now in the sense that the name of teruma hovers over all potential pairs, though none is singled out. This is ontic doubt—an ambiguity in reality itself.
A practical consequence emerges in Gittin 25a: someone with two wives instructs a scribe to write a bill of divorce “for whichever wife exits the doorway first” tomorrow. Since a get must be written for the sake of the woman being divorced, the Gemara ties the validity of such a get to the dispute about bereira. Here, too, the parallel to the “one of two sisters” case is evident, and in the next column we will return to the topic of quantum collapse and its appearance in halakha.
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Ontic and Epistemic Uncertainty II: Aspects of Jewish Law
In the previous column we examined the conceptual and scientific distinction between epistemic uncertainty and ontic uncertainty. Despite the confusion and incomprehension that the quantum description arouses in us, it turns out that commentators on the Talmud use this very same distinction. True, they do so in the legal sphere rather than the physical one, and as we shall now see, in the legal sphere it is very easy to understand and sharpen this confusing distinction. In this column I want to demonstrate this in two contexts of Jewish law: betrothal that does not permit intercourse (see my lectures on this here and in the twelfth volume of the Talmudic Logic series) and retroactive clarification (see the fourth volume in that same series). In the next column I will discuss the connection between these two issues, insofar as there is one, and we will see there an interesting implication for the phenomenon of quantum collapse (discussed in the previous column in the scientific context) in Jewish law.
Epistemic Uncertainty in Jewish Law
Jewish law deals quite a bit with situations of uncertainty. For example, a case in which two pieces of meat lie before me, one pork and the other kosher meat, and I must decide whether to eat one of them, and if so which one. This is a case of uncertainty, and it is decided according to the rules for adjudicating uncertainty. Even if I found a piece of meat lying on the sidewalk in the center of town, there is room for uncertainty as to whether it is kosher meat or not. One indication that may help us decide the uncertainty is a survey of all the stores that sell meat in that city: if most of them sell kosher meat, then strictly speaking it is permitted to eat the meat I found. This is an example of a decision rule for cases of uncertainty (the rule of following the majority).
In the Mishnah, Yevamot 118b, we find another case of uncertainty:
If a man betrothed one of five women and does not know which one he betrothed, and each says, ‘He betrothed me,’ he gives a bill of divorce to each and every one, and places the marriage settlement among them and withdraws; these are the words of Rabbi Tarfon. Rabbi Akiva says: This is not a way to remove oneself from transgression, until he gives a bill of divorce and the marriage settlement to each and every one.
If a man robbed one of five people and does not know from which of them he robbed, and each says, ‘He robbed me,’ he places the stolen item among them and withdraws; these are the words of Rabbi Tarfon. Rabbi Akiva says: This is not a way to remove oneself from transgression, until he pays each and every one.
Here we have a situation in which a man betrothed a certain woman but does not remember which of the five he betrothed. A similar case can arise when a man sends an agent to choose a wife for his son from a certain city (like Eliezer, Abraham’s servant, whom his master asked to seek a wife for his son Isaac in Haran), and the agent betrothed some woman and then died. For the sake of the discussion, let us assume that the woman’s father, who received the betrothal on her behalf, also died. Now the intended husband, and indeed no one else in the world, knows who his wife is. In such a case all the women are treated, out of uncertainty, as his wives, and he is forbidden to marry the sister of any one of them, and all of them require a bill of divorce before they may marry someone else. This too is a case of uncertainty, and the laws of uncertainty apply to it. The second case in that Mishnah deals with someone who robbed and does not remember whom he robbed. Here as well the situation is very similar. The tannaitic sages disagree as to whether he may place the object among them and withdraw, or whether he must return the stolen item to each of them in order to be certain.
These two situations are similar to the uncertainty regarding the pieces of meat. The factual state of affairs is single and fixed; we simply do not know it. God does know, because He knows everything, but human beings have limited information. Therefore, from our standpoint, it is either kosher meat or forbidden meat. Either it is a woman who was betrothed or it is not. All these cases reflect a lack of information on the part of the person, not in the world itself—that is, epistemic uncertainty.
Betrothal That Does Not Permit Intercourse: The Dispute between Abaye and Rava
By contrast, in the sugya of ‘betrothal that does not permit intercourse,’ Kiddushin 51a-b, there is a discussion about a man who comes to the father of two daughters and gives him money in order to betroth one of his two daughters, without specifying which one. Notice that here we are already dealing with sisters, not merely with two unrelated women. The problem that arises here is that if Rachel is the one betrothed to me, then Leah is my wife’s sister and I am forbidden to have relations with her. And if Leah is the one betrothed to me, then Rachel is my wife’s sister and I am forbidden to have relations with her. In short, after I have done this disgraceful thing, I find myself in a situation where I cannot have marital relations with either of them, since each is possibly my wife’s sister. This is the situation that Jewish law calls ‘betrothal that does not permit intercourse.’
What is to be done in such a case? Abaye and Rava disagree there in the Gemara:
It was stated: With regard to betrothal that does not permit intercourse, Abaye said: It is valid betrothal. Rava said: It is not valid betrothal. Rava said: Bar Ahina explained it to me: +Deut. 24+ ‘When a man takes a wife and has relations with her’—betrothal that permits intercourse is betrothal; betrothal that does not permit intercourse is not betrothal.
According to Abaye, this betrothal does take effect, and both women require a bill of divorce. Even according to his view, the man is forbidden to both of them, since each is his wife’s sister and relations with her would involve a possible prohibition punishable by karet. But in his view that does not prevent the betrothal from taking effect. Because it cannot be physically realized, the man must give both of these women a bill of divorce out of uncertainty and release them. According to Abaye, this situation is similar to the earlier case of one who betroths one of five women and forgets whom he betrothed. Here too we have a case of uncertainty, and the laws of uncertainty apply. But Rava holds that this is not betrothal at all, because it does not permit intercourse. Therefore, in his view, both women are permitted to others without any bill of divorce. I emphasize again that both agree that this betrothal does not permit intercourse, and their dispute is only over the question whether such a situation prevents the betrothal from taking effect. Let us note that this is one of the six exceptional cases in which the law is decided in accordance with Abaye (this is the q-case in the mnemonic YAL KGM).
What Is Betrothal That Does Not Permit Intercourse?
Before proceeding, let us clarify the concept of ‘betrothal that does not permit intercourse’ itself. At first glance, this means betrothal that cannot be realized in physical relations. That indeed seems to follow from Rashi’s words there, where he wrote:
‘When a man takes a wife’—that is betrothal by money, which we derive (above, Kiddushin 2a) through the verbal analogy of ‘taking’; and it is written ‘and has relations with her,’ from which we require that she be fit for intercourse.
From the verse we learn that betrothal must be fit for intercourse. But according to this, it follows that in Abaye’s view there is no such requirement. If so, it is not clear why betrothal does not take effect in unions prohibited on pain of karet (for example, one who betroths his sister or his mother). True, one cannot have relations with one’s mother or sister, but according to Abaye that should not prevent the betrothal from taking effect. Let me sharpen the point further. In this very sugya it is stated that if a man betroths Rachel and afterward her sister Leah, then according to everyone, including Abaye, Leah is not betrothed, because she is his wife’s sister and betrothal does not take effect in unions prohibited on pain of karet. The dispute concerns only a situation in which he betrothed one of the two, that is, both stood before him simultaneously. And even here, if he betrothed both together, everyone agrees that the betrothal does not take effect. The dispute is only in the case where he betroths one of the two without specifying which.
Tosafot there cites Rashi’s words and raises against him the opposite objection. Let us first note that in unions prohibited on pain of karet, betrothal does not take effect according to everyone, as we saw above. But with regard to unions prohibited merely by an ordinary negative commandment (lighter marital prohibitions outside the incest prohibitions—for example, a priest and a divorcée), the tannaitic sages disagreed whether betrothal can take effect, and the legal ruling is that it can. Tosafot, s.v. ‘Kiddushin,’ 51a, raises an objection to Rashi from here:
With regard to betrothal that does not permit intercourse, Rava said it is not betrothal—Rashi explained that this is because it is written ‘and has relations with her,’ so we require that they be fit for intercourse. But this is difficult, for those prohibited by an ordinary negative commandment are also not fit for intercourse, and yet betrothal does take effect with them.
Tosafot objects that according to Rashi’s approach, even in unions prohibited by an ordinary negative commandment the betrothal should not take effect according to Rava. After all, the physical ability to have relations exists both in more severe prohibitions and in ordinary negative-commandment prohibitions, so it is clear that the relevant condition is permission to have relations, not the mere physical possibility of doing so. If so, why is there a difference between unions prohibited on pain of karet and unions prohibited merely by a negative commandment? Both are forbidden by law, and therefore do not permit intercourse.
Therefore Tosafot himself explains the problem differently:
Therefore it seems that ‘betrothal that does not permit intercourse’ means that the prohibition of intercourse is brought about by the betrothal itself. That is the case when he betroths one of two sisters without specification: before the betrothal, each of them was permitted to him, and now, through the betrothal, both have become forbidden. But in unions prohibited by a negative commandment, the prohibition of intercourse was not brought about by the betrothal, for even beforehand they were forbidden to him for intercourse just as they are after the betrothal.
According to Tosafot, the problem is not that the betrothal cannot be realized, but that instead of permitting intercourse it forbids it.
And so too in the Rashba there, 51a, who wrote:
Betrothal that does not permit intercourse is not valid betrothal. And this is specifically where the betrothal completes the prohibition; but in unions prohibited by a negative commandment and those prohibited by a positive commandment, although they do not permit intercourse, they are valid betrothal.
Contrary to the simple understanding that emerges from Rashi’s words, Tosafot and the Rashba argue that the problem lies in the act of betrothal itself, not in its result. The resultant problem of a betrothal that cannot be realized in practice is another question altogether (discussed in connection with a wedding to a menstruant woman, and as a matter of law, according to most authorities the betrothal takes effect). Here the issue is fundamentally different.
It seems to me that according to Tosafot and the Rashba, ‘betrothal that does not permit intercourse’ is not a principle saying that betrothal must be consummated, but rather a principle that the act of betrothal must pave the way to marital relations and not block it. If the act of betrothal, instead of permitting the woman to her husband, brings it about that she is forbidden to him, then it is not an act of betrothal. One may compare this to divorce that lacks ‘severance.’ The Gemara states in several places that divorce that does not permit the woman to others is not divorce. For example, divorce on a condition that continues to accompany the woman forever: ‘This is your bill of divorce on condition that you never drink wine.’ Since in such a divorce the woman never becomes fully released from her husband (because there is always the possibility that she will drink wine, in which case it will turn out that she is still married to him), such a divorce is not a divorce. The explanation is that the point of divorce is to permit the woman and sever her bond with her husband. If it does not do that, it is not divorce. Here we see that betrothal too requires something opposite to severance: betrothal must connect a woman to her husband, and if it itself creates a rupture between them, it is not betrothal.
The practical difference appears when there is some prohibition unrelated to the act of betrothal that blocks the path to intercourse. In that situation, according to Tosafot and the Rashba, the betrothal takes effect even according to Rava (unless we are dealing with unions prohibited on pain of karet, where the problem is the prohibition itself and not the lack of ability to have relations). The reason is that there is no requirement that the betrothal be capable of being realized. The act of betrothal did not itself create a prohibition where there had been permission before (the prohibition was already there, independent of the act of betrothal). In such a case the betrothal takes effect.
What shall we say according to Rashi? Could he be denying the accepted rule that betrothal does not take effect in unions prohibited on pain of karet according to Abaye, or that betrothal does take effect in unions prohibited by a negative commandment according to Rava? That is unlikely. These are agreed laws. It may be that in his view incest prohibitions do belong to this category, whereas ordinary negative-commandment prohibitions do not. The reason is that prohibitions by ordinary negative commandment are lighter, and therefore this is not regarded as a woman with whom intercourse is impossible. It is merely forbidden; the obstacle is external. By contrast, in incest prohibitions the woman is altogether outside the sphere, not merely subject to a prohibition. The severity of the incest prohibition creates a situation in which it is as though the act of intercourse is not factually possible at all. But it is still not clear why Abaye does not disagree and maintain that betrothal takes effect even in unions prohibited on pain of karet. True, this does not permit intercourse, but on his view such a state does not prevent the betrothal. It may be that Rashi really meant what Tosafot and the Rashba say, but they did not understand him that way.
Betrothal That Does Not Permit Intercourse: Ontic or Epistemic Uncertainty?
At first glance, this too seems to be an ordinary case of uncertainty, since it is not known which of the two sisters was betrothed to him, and the laws of uncertainty should apply. But that seems incorrect on its face. First, in a case of three sisters one might ask why we should not nullify the one woman in the majority and permit all of them to him out of uncertainty. True, this question also arises regarding the sugya of one who betroths one of five women who are not sisters. Seemingly he should be able to release all of them without a bill of divorce. But perhaps there it would involve mutually contradictory rulings, like the case of the two paths. Moreover, in our case this leads to mutually contradictory rulings, for it would thereby permit two sisters to him simultaneously. But there still remains the possibility that he choose one and live with her, and not with both together, in which case there is no contradiction. Seemingly, this proves that we are dealing here with ontic rather than epistemic uncertainty, and therefore the ordinary laws of uncertainty do not apply. Below we will see this in greater detail, but before that I want to challenge the conception of the uncertainty here as epistemic from a different angle.
As is well known, the medieval authorities disagree regarding the rule that biblical uncertainty is treated stringently. The Rashba holds that this rule itself is biblical, whereas Maimonides holds that it is a rule instituted by the sages, that is, rabbinic rather than biblical. If so, according to Maimonides, in cases of biblical uncertainty one may be lenient on the biblical level, and only the sages imposed stringency. If that is so, then according to Maimonides it is not clear why, when a man betroths one of two sisters, this should count as betrothal that does not permit intercourse. After all, each of them is only possibly his wife’s sister, and according to Maimonides, in biblical uncertainty one may be lenient on the biblical level; that means that biblically he may have relations with her. According to his view, the prohibition of relations with her is only rabbinic, and therefore on the biblical level this should have been a betrothal that does permit intercourse. This difficulty exists not only according to Rava but also according to Abaye, for as I noted above, Abaye too agrees that he is forbidden to have relations with them, meaning that the betrothal indeed does not permit intercourse. He only argues, unlike Rava, that such betrothal nevertheless takes effect (though of course he may not have relations with them and he must give both of them a bill of divorce).
This is a first hint that the uncertainty here has a different character. Here even Maimonides would agree that it is biblically forbidden to have relations with either of them, and the ordinary laws of uncertainty do not apply. As we shall now see, the reason is that the uncertainty in this case is fundamentally different from the ordinary legal uncertainties described above. The ordinary uncertainties are epistemic uncertainties (absence of information), whereas here we are dealing with ontic uncertainty.
The one who formulated this clearly and sharply was R. Shimon Shkop, in __Sha’arei Yosher __Gate 3, chapter 22:
It seems to me, in my humble opinion, that in the case where one betrothed one of five women… and likewise where one consecrated a perutah coin within a purse, there is here a profound inquiry as to the manner in which the legal effect takes hold upon one of them.
For when one betroths one woman out of five, and neither the betrothing party nor the one being betrothed specified which of them was to be designated for betrothal, how is it possible to say that in actual reality one specific woman was designated for betrothal? By what reason or cause would Heaven single out one woman so that she should be the one betrothed and designated more than the other women?
Rather, it seems more reasonable to say that in such a case, even in actual reality, no specific woman was designated for betrothal. And in such a case it is not relevant to say, ‘if Elijah were to come.’ And when we say that each one is forbidden because of uncertainty, this is not like ordinary uncertainties in general, for the whole concept of uncertainty is that perhaps this is the definite reality; but here the point is that the entire legal effect exists because of the cause that brings it about.
When a man betroths one woman out of five and later forgets who she is, that is an ordinary epistemic uncertainty. There is one defined woman who is betrothed to him, and only he does not know who she is. God does know, because the information exists. But when he betroths one of five women and does not define at all who it is, in such a case one cannot say that there is one woman who is in truth betrothed to him, for Heaven did not designate any one of them to be betrothed to him. It is clear that such a case is ontic uncertainty, meaning that there is no specific woman who is betrothed to him. Even God Himself, if asked, would not be able to tell us which of them is betrothed. In the first kind of uncertainty there is one correct answer that God knows, only I do not know it, and therefore it is epistemic uncertainty. By contrast, in our case there is no correct answer at all. The problem here is not lack of information on the part of the person, as in all the ordinary uncertainties of Jewish law, but ambiguity or non-determinacy in reality itself. This is ontic uncertainty, or ambiguity.
And so he goes on to explain there:
And the cause of the legal effect of betrothal is the act of betrothal—the giving of the money and the declaration. Since he gave the money and said, ‘One of these five women shall be betrothed to me,’ whereby it is fitting that one of them should attain the legal status of a married woman, by virtue of this each one is forbidden because of the act, and not because we are uncertain whether she is the betrothed one more than the four remaining women; and so too in every similar case…
What generates this situation is the giving of the betrothal money. Once the money has been given, a legal effect of betrothal has indeed been created here, but there is no specific woman with respect to whom that effect has taken hold. Therefore each of the five women is forbidden to marry someone else, because there is a concern that she is a married woman. And if those five are sisters, then both are forbidden to the one who betrothed them, because each is, so to speak, his wife’s sister.
But the term ‘uncertainty,’ which I used here, is not accurate with respect to our case. This is not uncertainty:
In every such case, the category of uncertainty does not mean that perhaps this is the definite reality, for in such a case there is no definite reality even in actual existence. Rather, for purposes of practical conduct we must treat each one as having the law of uncertainty because of the cause that generates the law—that one of them must be the one, though it is not determined who that one is, and all are fit to be that one.
In all these cases—that is, cases of ontic uncertainty—there is not really a state of uncertainty at all, because no information is missing. I possess all the relevant information, just as God does. And yet several possibilities remain. If so, this is not a lack of information but several possibilities in reality itself. Reality itself is ambiguous, that is, it is not in a sharp and fixed state. In yeshiva parlance this is called ‘certain uncertainty,’ as opposed to ‘uncertain certainty,’ which describes epistemic uncertainty. I am certain that reality itself is indeterminate, as opposed to epistemic uncertainty, where I am uncertain about a reality that is in itself fixed and clear.
Indeed, in conclusion it seems at first glance that the laws of uncertainty are applied here:
Therefore the law here is like the law of uncertainty, because even before Heaven it is not revealed that one is certainly forbidden and the rest certainly permitted, for in actual reality as well they are all equal and there is no difference between this one and that one.
But that is not quite precise. The prohibition upon the one who betrothed them with respect to each of the sisters is not doubtful but certain. Each of them is certainly his wife’s sister, except that she is the sister of his tenuous wife. Therefore with respect to each of them there is a certain but tenuous prohibition, not a doubtful prohibition. From this it is clear that even according to Maimonides there is no possibility of relations with either of them, for each is certainly forbidden to him, though by a tenuous prohibition.
Shkop too sensed this difference, and points to another distinction between these two kinds of uncertainty—uncertainty and ambiguity:
Accordingly, in such a case it is not relevant to speak of nullification by majority, for only where the minority is distinct from the majority did the Torah say, ‘incline after the many.’ But in such a case, where all are equal even in actual reality, there is here no minority and majority, for they are all forbidden because of the cause that generates the law—that one of them is fit to be forbidden, though it is not clarified who that one is. Which of them will you exclude and which will you include?
He argues that here too there is no law of nullification by majority (the first question I raised above). In an ordinary mixture of one forbidden piece among several permitted pieces, there is one forbidden piece that is nullified within the majority of permitted pieces. But in a case of ontic uncertainty there is no difference at all between one woman and another. There is no forbidden woman and permitted woman; rather, they are all in the same state. In such a situation one cannot speak of nullification by majority, because there is no majority and minority here at all. All the women here are in an identical state—not only from the standpoint of our information about them, but in reality itself. One may formulate this differently: nullification by majority is stated when there is uncertainty, as in following the majority. But in a case of certainty—and here with respect to each woman her status is entirely certain, for she is the betrother’s tenuous wife—the rule of nullification by majority was never stated.[1]
The Connection to Quantum Theory
In the previous column we examined situations in quantum theory in which ambiguity appears, that is, ontic uncertainty (as opposed to chaos, where we have uncertainty rather than ambiguity, that is, epistemic uncertainty, or lack of information). It is interesting to note that Shkop wrote these words at roughly the same period in which quantum theory was coming into being in physics. I assume that he had never even heard of it, and certainly did not know it. Perhaps the Zeitgeist, the spirit of the age, led him to formulate a similar distinction in the Talmudic context, and as we shall now see, precisely there this distinction is much easier to digest, and it can even clarify for us something of the mystery of quantum theory.
To understand this, note that the situation in betrothal that does not permit intercourse is completely identical to the situation in the double-slit experiment described in the previous column. There we described a case in which the particle passes through both slits, and we explained that this is not meant literally. The state of the particle is a sum, a superposition, of two ‘pure’ classical states, in one of which it passes through slit A and in the other through slit B. We described this formally as follows:
For our purposes, state [A> is the state in which Rachel is my wife and Leah is my wife’s sister (the particle passed through slit A and not through B), and state [B> is the state in which Leah is my wife and Rachel is my wife’s sister (the particle passed through slit B and not through A). The state after the betrothal is the state , that is, the superposition between these two states. Note that here it is already self-evident that the meaning of this state is not that both women are married to me, since it is impossible for a man to be married to two sisters simultaneously, not even in tenuous marriage. The combination being made here is not between the women but between the states. The overall state of me and the two women, in terms of our personal legal status, is a combination of two classical personal-status states, in each of which only one of the sisters is married to me. Each classical, pure state is itself a state of the three of us: state [A> describes me as married to Rachel and Leah as unmarried, though she is my wife’s sister. State [B> describes me as married to Leah and Rachel as unmarried, though she is my wife’s sister. The overall state of the three of us is a sum of two states, each of which is itself a state of the three of us.
Therefore it is not correct to say that each of them is married to me in a tenuous way, for then both of them would be married to me together, and that is impossible. The more correct formulation is that each is married to me with probability one-half, that is, each of the two classical states has probability one-half. But note that here the probability is not the chance that this is the correct state, because there is no one ‘correct’ state. Rather, it is the weight that this state has in the superposition that constitutes the general state. This is ontic rather than epistemic probability, exactly as in quantum theory (in the case of betrothal that does not permit intercourse, it is clear that the coefficients α and β are equal).
It is worth noticing that in the legal-halakhic case it is very easy to understand this state and its implications, although in quantum theory this very same description is highly confusing. It is very difficult to explain to people or to students the difference between quantum uncertainty or indeterminacy, which is ontic ambiguity, and a state of classical uncertainty, which is epistemic uncertainty. Thus, for example, in the previous column it was hard for me to explain why it is not correct to say that the particle passed through both slits together. I said there that its wave function is composed of functions that pass through the two slits, and the wave function describes the ontic probability. Here, precisely because we are dealing not with physics but with a normative-legal world, there is no difficulty explaining it or grasping it.[2] It is obvious to everyone that it is impossible for both women to be married to me, and therefore it must be that what we have here is a superposition, and that it is not identical to a state of tenuous marriage to both of them. If you try now to read the previous column again, I suspect it will be easier to understand.
Collapse of the Wave Function
Interestingly, as we saw in the previous column, in quantum theory the probabilities α and β represented in the wave function have yet another meaning. First, they describe the composition of the general wave function, as can be seen from the formula above. But we saw that when one places a detector near one of the slits, in such a case the wave function collapses: the particle behaves in a civilized, classical manner and passes only through one slit. In that situation too, the probabilities have meaning. These coefficients describe the chance of obtaining a given outcome in the experiment. If these coefficients are equal, then the chance that the detector will signal that the particle passed through slit A, and not through B, is equal to the chance that it did not pass there, but rather through B.
Thus these coefficients determine both the composition of the compound wave function and the chance that we will obtain each result in a measurement, that is, the chance that the wave function will collapse into each of its two classical components. In this sense, if we had the ability to measure which of the two women is married to the one who betrothed them, then the coefficients of the superposition would determine which of them would be married to him. In our case the coefficients are equal, and therefore we have a state of balanced ontic uncertainty—more precisely, uniform ambiguity.[3] In the next column we will deal with the phenomenon of collapse and its appearance in Jewish law. But before that I must preface it with a discussion of the second sugya in which we see a state of ontic uncertainty: the sugya of ‘retroactive clarification.’
The Sugya of ‘Retroactive Clarification’
There is a whole collection of Talmudic sugyot that deal with the law of ‘retroactive clarification,’ in which, at least according to the interpretation of some of the medieval authorities, one can see the same phenomenon. We may demonstrate this through an example that recurs in many discussions throughout the Talmud (Gittin 25a, Hullin 14a, and elsewhere), dealing with the separation of the priestly portion:
For it was taught: One who buys wine from the Samaritans says, ‘The two log that I am going to separate are hereby the priestly portion, ten are first tithe, nine are second tithe,’ and he redeems it and drinks immediately—these are the words of Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, and Rabbi Shimon prohibit it.
The case is that of a person who bought a barrel containing one hundred log of wine from which the priestly portions and tithes had not yet been separated. He wants to drink the wine without separating them, for example because it is the Sabbath and one may not separate priestly portions and tithes on the Sabbath. In the case before us, that person says on Sabbath morning that the two log that will remain on Saturday night, one-fiftieth, which is the standard average measure, will be the priestly portion, and all the rest will be ordinary wine, and he wants to drink the wine immediately now on the Sabbath on the basis of that separation.
The tannaitic sages disagreed over whether he may drink the wine on the basis of the future separation—this is the position that there is retroactive clarification, meaning that the future can clarify the present state—or not. This latter is the position that there is no retroactive clarification, meaning that Jewish law does not recognize such retroactive determination. As a matter of law, nearly all legal decisors rule that in biblical law there is no retroactive clarification, which means that it is forbidden to drink the wine on the Sabbath itself. The question is why.
Defining the Situation According to the View That There Is No Retroactive Clarification
At first glance, according to the view that rejects retroactive clarification, the priestly portion has not been separated until Saturday night arrives, and therefore now all the wine is untithed produce forbidden for drinking. But Rashi here, and in several parallel sugyot, writes in explaining the prohibiting opinion, that is, the one that rejects retroactive clarification:
They prohibit—thus Rabbi Yehuda does not accept retroactive clarification, and he is concerned lest he drink the priestly portion.
According to his approach, Rabbi Yehuda prohibits drinking the wine out of concern that the person may drink the priestly portion, and not because of the prohibition of untithed produce. How can one say that, according to the view that the separation was not made at all and never took effect? Clearly, according to him, separation made in this way does take effect, but on the Sabbath itself it is not determined which specific two log are the priestly portion. There is here a state of uncertainty regarding which two log of the wine in the barrel bear the designation of priestly portion, and therefore it is forbidden to drink any of the wine in it. Other medieval authorities held this way as well. Some of the medieval authorities held that this really is a prohibition of untithed produce and not a doubtful prohibition of the priestly portion, but our concern here is to clarify the position of Rashi and his school.
Incidentally, the practical implication of this dispute is that according to Rashi and his school, a priest would be able to drink all the wine from this barrel, since he is permitted to drink wine of the priestly portion, whereas according to the other medieval authorities, of course not, for untithed produce is forbidden even to priests.[4]
Ontic or Epistemic Uncertainty
One could have interpreted this view as involving epistemic uncertainty, and that is the simple sense of Rashi’s wording: ‘and he is concerned lest he drank the priestly portion.’ After all, at present we do not know which two log will remain on Saturday night. Any pair of log might be the two log of the priestly portion, and therefore, out of uncertainty, we are forbidden to drink any of the wine. But there are various indications that the intent here is different. What we have here is ontic uncertainty: there is a tenuous designation of priestly portion upon every pair of log in this mixture, and therefore there is a certain but tenuous prohibition upon every pair of log. Rashi’s expression ‘he is concerned lest’ is only a conventional turn of phrase. In light of this we can understand, for example, why the priestly portion is not nullified in the majority of ordinary wine. Rabbinically, the priestly portion is nullified only in one hundred parts, but on the basic biblical level it is nullified by a majority. Exactly as we saw above with regard to the women, here too there is no rule of nullification by majority, because in ontic uncertainty there is no difference between the majority and the minority, and in fact there is no majority and minority here at all.
According to this description, every pair of log is in the same status as the others, and the overall state is a superposition among a great many ‘pure,’ classical states, each of which is a state of all the wine in the barrel. In each of those states, a certain pair of log is the priestly portion and all the rest is ordinary wine.[5] For those familiar with mathematical notation, one could write here a formula similar to the one I wrote above, which describes the state as a superposition of n classical states (see note 3):
where the state [i> describes the i-th pair of log, that is, a certain set of molecules מתוך the totality of molecules, as the priestly portion, and the rest as ordinary wine.
We thus learn that, at least according to Rashi, as a matter of law in such a situation the separation of the priestly portion does indeed take effect and is effective already now, except that the designation of priestly portion does not take hold on one specific pair of log, but on all pairs of log, exactly as in betrothal that does not permit intercourse.[6]
According to Rashi, this state is really a state of ontic uncertainty, or ambiguity, and not uncertainty. In reality itself there are no two specific log of wine that are the priestly portion; rather, every pair is a tenuous priestly portion. Again, it is not correct to say that all of them are a tenuous priestly portion; rather, the overall state is a superposition of classical states, in the sense that in each of them there are two specific log of the priestly portion and the rest are ordinary wine. Even in Heaven they do not know which pair are the two log of the priestly portion. And even if they know which pair will remain on Saturday night, that does not matter, because according to the view that there is no retroactive clarification, at present that is not the pair of log of the priestly portion.
In closing, let me note that in the sugya of retroactive clarification in Gittin 25a they discuss a case of a man who wrote a bill of divorce for one of his two wives, namely, the one who would go out first through the doorway. According to Jewish law, a bill of divorce must be written for the sake of the woman being divorced as a condition of its validity. This man has two wives, and he decided to divorce one of them without determining which one of the two. He instructs the scribe to write a bill of divorce for the sake of that woman who will be chosen in a future event, namely, whichever one will go out first through the doorway of the house tomorrow. The Gemara makes the validity of such a bill of divorce depend on the dispute regarding retroactive clarification. Here one can already see even more clearly the similarity to the sugya of one who betroths one of two women discussed above. In the next column we will discuss the connection between the two sugyot and its implications for the phenomenon of quantum collapse in Jewish law.
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Footnotes
- I should note that Shkop’s great disciple, Rabbi Shmuel Rozovsky, does not accept his teacher’s theory on this issue, and in his view this is epistemic uncertainty. In the third chapter of my book, Fuzzy Logic in the Talmud (volume 12 in the Talmudic Logic series), I discussed his words and explained Shkop’s position.
- In column 33 we dealt with time travel, and there too we saw a similar phenomenon: in the legal world it is easier to understand than in the physical world.
- Incidentally, even if the coefficients were not equal, I still do not think it would be correct to decide according to the majority and permit one of them. As Shkop wrote in the passage cited above, in ontic uncertainty one does not follow the majority.
- One could analyze this further in light of the dispute among the medieval authorities, Rashi and Tosafot on Yevamot 86a, discussed in __Atvan DeOraita __sec. 2, whether the prohibition of untithed produce is due to the priestly portion mixed into it or whether it is an independent prohibition. But in the straightforward sense it is an independent prohibition, and that is what I am assuming here.
- Since this is liquid mixed with liquid, there are infinitely many possibilities for choosing the pair of log, and not merely fifty, of course. But on intuitive grounds it seems that in every molecule that I drink there is a prohibition in a weakened measure of 1 in 50, because it belongs to very many pairs among the totality of possible pairs.
- One may wonder why we do not say that the priestly portion should take effect upon that very pair of log that will remain on Saturday night. After all, if I drink the wine on the Sabbath itself, then with regard to every sip that I drank it is obvious that it does not belong to the two log of the priestly portion, since it was drunk and therefore certainly will not be part of the two log that remain on Saturday night. But we must remember that because it is forbidden to drink the wine, in practice this will not really happen. One may debate what the law would be if someone were to come and drink anyway, despite the prohibition. In such a case there do remain two specific log, and everything that was drunk does not belong to them, and then there would be room to say that he drank ordinary wine and that therefore it had been permissible to drink. One must say that this is precisely the principle of no retroactive clarification, which says that one may not rely on such a later determination. Even if I did drink and on Saturday night two specific log remain, it is still not correct to say that these were the two log of the priestly portion from the outset. Because there is no retroactive clarification, the state on the Sabbath itself is that the designation of priestly portion exists equally on every pair of log in the barrel.
Discussion
B. If that were correct, then even in a case where one betrothed one of two sisters it should not take effect for the same reason.
C. Indeed, that is the proof I brought from terumah. I did not understand your comment on my note 6.
So why, according to Rashi, is there bererah in a rabbinic doubt? After all, this is not a classic case of doubt where one can say: in a rabbinic doubt we rule leniently.
The connection between accepting bererah in rabbinic matters and the rule of a rabbinic doubt is itself disputed among the Rishonim. For example, some explained that the dispute whether there is or is not bererah was never resolved, and therefore in rabbinic matters we go leniently.
Many thanks to the Rabbi 🙂
I’m interested in asking: seemingly, in the case of “half slave and half free man” as well—are we also dealing here with an “ontic” doubt?
It seems to me that we are, because apparently he has both aspects together: both a full slave and a full free man.
Or perhaps this is an epistemic doubt? That in truth it is revealed before Heaven, only we are uncertain, etc.
This is certainly not an epistemic doubt, since we have no doubt whatsoever about him. He is half this and half that. This is no different from any jointly owned object that belongs to two owners. Simply, only half of him is owned by me. There is no problem here—neither epistemic nor ontic. There is no ambiguity here at all. He is both this and that. Here, for example, collapse is entirely irrelevant. No one can turn his half-slave status into a full slave or a fully free man (unless they emancipate him).
But from where does the Gemara know at all that there is such a thing as a law of doubt here? Why not say that this is simply not a form of kiddushin that was legislated, and so there is nothing here? I also asked this here: https://mikyab.net/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA/%D7%A9%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%94-%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9F-%D7%A7%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%AA. By the way, in the case of two firstborns that emerged together there is no collapse—so what would the Ritva answer from the next Tur?
And what I wrote there, “the prohibition,” should read “the punishment”—obviously.
I did not understand the question. A man performs kiddushin but directs it to one of two women. The natural result is that the kiddushin takes effect on both of them in a quantum way. You don’t need any source for that. On the contrary, Rava’s claim that it does not take effect is based on the reasoning that this is kiddushin not given over to intercourse, not on the fact that there is no clear addressee for the kiddushin. Therefore, if he were to effect kiddushin on one woman out of two who are not sisters, then even according to Rava there is kiddushin here despite there being no clear addressee for the kiddushin.
As for two firstborns, that is like terumah. Clearly there is no collapse, because he did not stipulate in advance, and therefore the collapse is only from that point onward. But with a firstborn, what matters is its status at the moment it is born. Therefore collapse is irrelevant there. Exactly like terumah, where you cannot drink the wine, or in kiddushin, where at the moment he betrothed them these were kiddushin not given over to intercourse.
But in today’s law, surely it is not like that (I assume). That is, there is an explicit use here of a metaphysical conception of legal effectuation, as also appears in that article on legal effectuation. But even if there are haluyot, ostensibly the ways they take effect could certainly be identical to a situation where there are no haluyot. Maybe the legal effectuation is classical?
On second thought, I accept it. This issue bothered me for a long time—wow, thank you.
By the way, I am not sure that in today’s law it is really like that. If I approach someone and buy from him one parcel of land out of his parcels (as in the case discussed in the responsum of the Rashba that I mentioned in the note), is it not correct that one of them is his by acquisition? And even if the court tells him to choose one now (a common-sense solution), one can still ask, from a legal standpoint, who was the owner from the moment of purchase until the moment of choice. For example, who pays the tax on each of the parcels until that moment? In short, I am not at all sure that you are legally correct. In my opinion there will be situations in which the law too will say the same thing (although of course where there is an obvious solution, like the Ritva’s collapse, clearly the law will adopt it, because there there is no metaphysics).
But if we are legislating whatever we want, I would say that until we reach a valid state, we remain in the previous valid state. Why complicate things? (And about this Scripture said: “It will raise the head of this judgment and the head of this judgment,” etc.) I don’t see any purpose this serves.
B, C understood.
I was mistaken regarding note 6.
We legislate the matter of acquisitions and kiddushin, but there are situations we did not think of. That is the result, and the judge has to decide what to do about it. The judge is not a legislator.
This is reminiscent of Rabbi Soloveitchik’s conception regarding the law of twilight: that it is not in the category of an ordinary doubt between day and night, but rather a separate state, like a superposition of day and night; he called this “an inherent doubt.”
Regarding note 3.
Seemingly, Rashash’s claim is that since we have identical entities here, it makes no sense to speak of a majority. But perhaps once the statistical coefficients differ, that itself defines them as different entities, and the option of nullification by majority would arise again, no?
That is not likely. The coefficients only represent the probability of obtaining each of the possibilities. They are not part of the definition of the possibility itself.
Beyond that, the basis for why there is no nullification here is that there is no mixture here. As I explained, this is not a mixture of women but a combination of states (each of which is a state of all the women). To define nullification between states rather than between objects sounds to me too speculative (though not impossible).
Clearly the coefficients represent only the probabilities. But usually (at least in a legal world) that would reflect the fact that there is also some difference between the entities or between the legal statuses that apply to them (otherwise why should there be a statistical difference). But since in any case this is a rather theoretical and not very distinct option, perhaps the discussion is not all that relevant.
Wonderfully elegant.
A. When the prohibition is unrelated to the kiddushin. According to this, perhaps one could discuss a case where he said to her: “So-and-so, acquire this courtyard from now on on condition that you never drink wine,” and her husband placed the get in that courtyard. Would that count as keritut or not? Perhaps according to Tosafot it would be keritut, and according to Rashi it would not. Though one could reject this, since the get is deficient insofar as its very validity is conditional, and not only its consequences.
B. As for the question why, according to Rashi and Abaye, kiddushin does not take effect in cases liable to karet: why can’t we answer along the same lines as the answer given for Rava, and say that kiddushin is defined within the framework of the law of interpersonal legal relations, whereas forbidden relations are outside the social domain and therefore it does not take effect—not because it is not given over to intercourse?
C. As for what you wrote in note 3, that this is so even when the weights are unequal: seemingly, isn’t the proof later on from terumah, which is not nullified in hullin, an explicit proof? And it seems to me that in these terms one could present the puzzle in note 6 as saying that if the practical weight is 0, then one can delete that term from the equation—and then one would have to say that even with weight 0, one does not delete it.
[The link has a typo. Instead of “from six” it should read “of six”.]