Q&A: The Existence of God
The Existence of God
Question
Hello Rabbi.
I came to your site after my YouTube was irrationally flooded with videos from igod. Obviously some of the claims in those videos are extremely embarrassing, but a few claims came up there that I looked for answers to, and I found a response article of yours to their arguments.
Following that, I also started reading older posts you uploaded, etc. In short, the intention of the “Messianic Jews” was turned around for the good
In any case, this is my question: do you have a good proof that there is a necessary basis for the existence of God?
I don’t know if there is even an answer, but after reading at length many of the things you wrote, I thought that maybe you could at least point me in the right direction.
Thank you and good evening
Answer
Hello. What you describe is very familiar to me. The problem is that your teachers probably also don’t know how to deal with these questions (I don’t know them of course, but that is usually the situation). What is called faith studies is generally completely worthless.
I can refer you to the five notebooks on my site. It’s a bit long, but I hope you’ll find some reasonable answers there. The first notebook is mainly for practice (the argument usually doesn’t convince people, and to some extent rightly so. Although I tried to show that it’s not quite as foolish as people think). But the other notebooks can be very helpful.
All the best, and if there are questions or comments — gladly.
Copied comments from a similar question:
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Michi:
The notebooks:
https://mikyab.net/%D7%9B%D7%AA%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94/
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y:
You can see here a response video to the igod video against the Oral Torah:
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Anonymous:
Thanks for the quick response. I watched the video yesterday evening בעקבות my search, enjoyed it and was convinced 🙂
I’ll start, with God’s help, going through the notebooks.
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Reading recommendation:
It is worth reading carefully the book by Rabbi Dr. Moshe Rat, Simply to Believe — A Guide for the Rational Believer, published by Yedioth Ahronoth, Tel Aviv 2017.
Best regards, S. Z. Levinger
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moishbb:
Moshe Rat has a cute site for fans of the genre called Mysterium
Something a bit bizarre — a mixture of philosophical and faith-related questions
with all kinds of superstitions, and a fondness for horror movies (that’s where all the answers are…)
Only God knows how such a stew came out of the study hall of Rabbi Michi.
Anyway, still an interesting site, with a more traditionalist approach than his rabbi.
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Revelation as a response to the request for mystery or to the request for knowledge? (to moishbb):
With God’s help, on the eve of the Day of Awareness and Concealment, 5778
To moishbb — greetings,
Following your referral, I took a bit of a look at Rabbi Moshe Rat’s site “Mysterium.” In the “About Us” section he presents his view as based on Rudolf Otto’s interpretation of religious experience as stemming from the terror and awe a person feels when seeing his own nothingness and smallness in the face of the infinite and incomprehensible greatness of his Creator.
By contrast, in Maimonides a religious experience is described that begins from the opposite direction. A person who is impressed by the greatness and wisdom of the Creator as revealed in the wondrous order of nature seeks to draw closer and know more and more of the ways of his Creator, and as he draws near he is filled with awe when he sees himself “standing with slight and meager understanding before the Master of all.” Love and the desire to draw near — these are what bring about awe.
The form of encounter described by Maimonides is very similar to the description of Moses’ encounter with God. It begins with the aspiration to know, “Why is the bush not burned?” and continues with “And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.” So too in the encounter in the cleft of the rock: Moses asks, “Please make known to me Your ways,” and God passes all His goodness before him, but shields him with His hand so that a human being not see more than he was permitted.
The High Priest as well enters the sanctuary on Yom Kippur, the day on which the second tablets were given, as the emissary of all Israel to come as close as possible to the Torah at its most primal source. He enters with open eyes, but immediately upon entering he is commanded to cover the sanctuary with a cloud, “for I appear in the cloud.”
The encounter with God begins with the desire to draw near and know as much as possible, and continues with the understanding that God is exalted far, far beyond — a constant tension of “running and returning,” between the desire to know more and more and the understanding that there is always something “above and beyond” our capacity to understand — love and awe as one.
Best regards, S. Z. Levinger
It seems that the religious experience described by Rudolf Otto, whose center is awe, is more fitting for “as servants,” whereas the religious experience described by Maimonides, which begins with love and continues with awe, is more fitting for “as children.”
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Yaron:
S. Z. Levinger,
Are you part of the site staff?
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moishbb:
Shatzal is flesh of the flesh of every site dealing with religion and state issues
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And in short (to moishbb):
It seems that this is the point of both commonality and difference between Rabbi Michael Abraham and his student Rabbi Moshe Rat. Both see religious commitment as stemming from divine revelation.
But whereas Rabbi Moshe Rat emphasizes revelation as a response to the human aspiration to cling to mystery, Rabbi Michael Abraham emphasizes the side of revelation as a response to man’s request to understand the ways of God (and it seems to me that on this point I am closer to Rabbi Michael Abraham…).
Best regards, S. Z. Levinger
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moishbb:
In the end there’s really no practical difference
Everyone needs to find his place
and his own way of connecting to God
Though I was sure you’d like him more because of his connection to the traditionalist path
through the lens of our Rabbi Michi’s enlightenment
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Nicely put (to moishbb):
Indeed, on this point I am closer to Rabbi M. Rat, as you put it: “because of his connection to the traditionalist path through the lens of our Rabbi Michi’s enlightenment” (and therefore I suggested looking into Rat’s book Simply to Believe — A Guide for the Rational Believer and refrained from mentioning his site…)
Best regards, S. Z. Levinger
As for your comment that I am “flesh of the flesh of every site dealing with religion and state,”
I enter and comment only on the sites “Shabbat Supplement — Makor Rishon,” “Rabbi Michael Abraham — Q&A and Articles,” and a bit on “Arutz 7,” as well as two sites dealing with the Bible — “Land of the Hebrews” and Haggai Misgav’s blog. And that is enough for me..
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And in any case:
And in any case, it’s good to be “flesh of the flesh” of a site whose owner is vegetarian. That way they don’t eat me 🙂
Best regards,, S. Z. Levinger